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The result was delete‎. ✗plicit 23:34, 30 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yohan Lainesse[edit]

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fails WP:GNG, WP:SIGCOV, and WP:NMMA. Only one win in the UFC currently over someone who was only a handful bouts into their career and went 0-3 in the UFC. Currently the #216 WW in the world, highest ever was #119, nowhere close to even the top 25 HeinzMaster (talk) 21:38, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Passes WP:TOOSOON ans WP:MMABIO, the only thing that really matters for MMA biography pages. It requires at least 3 fight under top promotion (UFC) which subject has and he will continue to compete there. Unfortunately if this one is invalid then there are several others that need to be deleted as well. ExNhilo87 (talk) 22:07, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Also read through WP:NMMA it is just a redirect, not only does it not mention MMA in it at all. I used the find on page function and most of the "MMA" are part of the word su"mma"ries.. so yeah kinda confused about that one.. ExNhilo87 (talk) 22:10, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
MMA notability, also known as WP:MMANOT, is an essay to give some guidance on points to consider when discussing the notability of the subjects of mixed martial arts (MMA) articles. Which article also passes. ExNhilo87 (talk) 22:15, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Article also passes basic guidelines for Wikipedia:Notability (people) People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published[4] secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other,[5] and independent of the subject.[6](article subject has multiple primary references)

If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.[7] Primary sources may be used to support content in an article, but they do not contribute toward proving the notability of a subject. People who meet the basic criteria may be considered notable without meeting the additional criteria below. Articles may still not be created for such people if they fall under exclusionary criteria, such as being notable only for a single event, or such as those listed in Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not.(depth of coverage by sources is substantial) ExNhilo87 (talk) 22:25, 23 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

what about all the other notability guidelines that it passes as mentioned above, this must be from recent rule changes. This article meets standards. One of the things that was quoted is just a redirect. Article passes basic guideline notability for Wikipedia as well as MMA notability. ExNhilo87 (talk) 04:20, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
thought this was supposed to be a discussion.. you guys ain't responding to me much just condemning the article even though it has multiple legitimate primary and secondary references and it meets several guidelines that you guys are not even willing to acknowledge for some reason. ExNhilo87 (talk) 04:26, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
ExNhilo87 be careful not to WP:BLUDGEON the discussion. It's easy to fall into that trap - I've done it before myself! Lethweimaster (talk) 21:12, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  1. Tapology profile Red XN
  2. Mma junkie From interview, usually not considered independent Red XN
  3. ufc.com non-independent Red XN
  4. Mma junkie Event results are not sufficient to meet GNG Red XN
  5. "tsn.ca" routine fight coverage Red XN
  6. Sherdog profile Red XN Lethweimaster (talk) 21:06, 24 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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