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The result was Keep. SNOW. (non-admin closure) Mvqr (talk) 17:08, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Willie Flattery[edit]

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non-notable former NFL player. Therapyisgood (talk) 19:30, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, American football, and Ohio. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:33, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Flattery played 16 games in the National Football League, all but two as a starter, and received much coverage as he was regarded as one of the greatest tackles in the area: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] etc. IAR if not GNG. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:57, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: 16 games in the NFL (with 14 of them being starts) easily meets WP:GNG. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:02, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and I should probably have just closed this one given that BeanieFan11 has demonstrated SIGCOV. I sincerely hope that the OP will not continue this batch of poor noms now that he has been made aware that he is creating unnecessary extra work for other editors. LEPRICAVARK (talk) 23:10, 27 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- How is improving articles creating "unnecessary work"? Therapyisgood (talk) 06:07, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  Is this a game to you? LEPRICAVARK (talk) 06:36, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Because these are notable articles, and nominating them for deletion is placing a huge strain on me because I have things in real life that I need to do, but I'm not getting them done because I'm too worried that unless I save these articles, they will be deleted! BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:05, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Passes WP:GNG with the sources found by BeanieFan11. On a sidenote, while Flattery played as a professional, his notability seems to stem from his college career per the sources. Playing in the NFL, especially in its early days, does not equal notability. While the nominator could improve the wording of the nomination, he is not in the wrong with the nomination. Alvaldi (talk) 09:54, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep passes WP:GNG clearly. I would further argue that there is no such thing as a "non-notable former NFL player" --Paul McDonald (talk) 23:06, 28 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Passes GNG per sources above and in article. Cbl62 (talk) 09:45, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per snow Keep and full notability of the subject, both in college and professional pioneering football. Please hesitate a bit before nomming obviously notable players, thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:58, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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For the closing admin, see this where User:Randy Kryn was canvassed by BeanieFan11 to vote where the AFDs were "close". here is the original diff. Therapyisgood (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply] And please see here where he ASKED me to – when a user asks someone to show them a list of AFDs, it is not canvassing. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply] Answering when a user specifically asking for recent similar discussions is not canvassing, that's just being nice.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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For the closing admin, see this where User:Randy Kryn was canvassed by BeanieFan11 to vote where the AFDs were "close". here is the original diff. Therapyisgood (talk) 18:53, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- And please see here where he ASKED me to – when a user asks someone to show them a list of AFDs, it is not canvassing. BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  - Answering when a user specifically asking for recent similar discussions is not canvassing, that's just being nice.--Paul McDonald (talk) 19:34, 30 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the sources provided by BeanieFan. Certainly enough to pass WP:GNG. Frank Anchor 19:16, 31 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Significant coverage of the subject appears to be presented above in order to meet the GNG notability requirement. Others should stop making claims of "number of games played", which has nothing to do with notability. Silver seren^C 01:36, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep References now in the article are adequate to establish notability. Cullen328 (talk) 02:32, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The sources (specifically this one and this one) added to the article include significant coverage from multiple independent reliable sources in the context of multiple events. Those sources pre-date his professional career, but being notable as a collegiate athlete still contributes to being notable for purposes of WP:NBASIC/WP:GNG. — Red-tailed hawk _(nest) 06:26, 1 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.