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The result was DELETE. postdlf (talk) 12:39, 12 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Trey Diggz[edit]
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No evidence that singer is notable. Singer has not yet released an album. Article claims singer has won awards, but my best guess (since uplaya, the host site, seems to be down) is that these are not notable awards (seem to verify a certain number of downloads). The article has only one other "reference", which is a dead link. A search of Google news produces no hits. Given everything, this looks like an artist who is not yet notable, although he may be some day. Until that time comes, the article should be deleted. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:40, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This artist has won awards, the links are very much active from Uplaya.
Also ICN is very reputable in blogs and local media outlets and represents Trey Diggz.
Our references abide by the standards set for a reputable page.
Also, this guys working with KANYE WEST's producers, how is he not worth a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Docdasuess (talk • contribs) 14:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep Its funny, I know him through mainstream media, the article BADLY needs a re-write because it reads like an ad, but he is notable, working with other people in the hip-hop community does not mean he isn't notable. --Cleave and Smite, Delete and Tear! (talk) 15:14, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This page isnt real. Has no album yet. awards are not real and actually just a novelty service for independent artist. Not from new york or chicago. Has not worked with Kanye west producer. No album currently listed in best buy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.26.33.91 (talk) 23:33, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment in response to Docdasuess's comments above. In fact, none of those are reliable sources--if you look at the article's talk page, I explained in detail why each one either has nothing to do with Diggz, or doesn't meet WP:RS. In response to your point about Kanye West, 1) Notability isn't inherited (that is, working with a notable person doesn't make one notable), and 2) no sources confirm he is working with West. After digging in deeper, I have little doubt that this is a person who is not currently notable, and instead is trying to use Wikipedia to become notable. Qwyrxian (talk) 00:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Disagree. Keep it. Working with reputable people doesn't make you famous, but it does count for something. You say blogs are reputable, but the fact is in wikis guidelines, you specificially say blogs can and are reliable. It is worth keeping up, given all that the artist has planned for the future. There is no album listed on the best buy, but if you look at the website, thats how they are going to release their album. I think this is definitely worth keeping. It has NEWS MEDIA SOURCES from the manager Ben Leinen, showing how reputable he is and that he's managing Trey Diggz. 00:20, 6 April 2011 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.29.3.248 (talk)
- Actually, I don't think you read WP:RS, because the exception for blogs is extremely slim, and certainly doesn't apply here. Please re-read that section; if you still think the blog writer is an "expert" in the Wikipedia sense, please post it on the article's talk page. Qwyrxian (talk) 21:53, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Relevent sources, objective writing. Honestly, it feels like you guys are just NITPICKING and DECONSTRUCTING nearly every aspect of the guy. Leave it up. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justmusicent (talk • contribs) 15:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom. No significant evidence of notability, persistent process disruption, NFCC violations, and likely sockpuppetry. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 16:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Is this a hoax? Can't be far off it. --82.41.20.82 (talk) 19:05, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Everyone that has said keep it, has a vested interest in seeing this page stay up ie. Docdaseuss is his producers and justmusicent is a prop company for Ben Leinen. He is using Wikipedia to get attention on the artist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.7.2.253 (talk) 19:22, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 19:29, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. this guy has a little notabilty, let him spread his wings a lil further. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.29.3.248 (talk) 03:24, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- comment 2nd keep !vote from IP previously (above, removed) impersonating an admin. IP's three-day editing history involves only this subject. So... socking, deceptive, IP SPA. --212.137.70.194 (talk) 12:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Wikipedia does not exist to spread others' wings; let him gain notability on his own first. --NellieBly (talk) 04:52, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Keep" it looked good b4 the changes i think. Whatever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.58.241.162 (talk) 22:18, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- comment another SPA IP !vote. With syntax issues. --82.41.20.82 (talk) 22:29, 7 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, zero hits on Google news, 111 hits on all of Google, none of them reliable sources. Corvus cornixtalk 00:03, 8 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
""Keep"" because of these new links:
http://www.idjfirstlook.com/music/trey-diggz
Has def jam distribution with first single on iTunes now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98XOkXMvbDU
first official music video out
http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/she-diggz-into-me/id431307189?i=431307355&ign-mpt=uo%3D4
she diggz into me, avilable through DEF JAM —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.29.3.248 (talk) 18:50, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- comment third keep !vote from SPA IP. The phrase 'less is more' seems apposite here. --82.41.20.82 (talk) 22:18, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- What makes any of those sources a reliable source from which to write a biography? Corvus cornixtalk 20:15, 9 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Per these new links we can establish that Trey diggz is on ISLAND DEF JAM, this is thru the reputible iTunes that you can see this. Also the video, while many people have music videos, few are done by a reputible label such as DEF JAM
173.29.3.248 (talk) 15:37, 10 April 2011 (UTC)Ben Leinen[reply]
- What part of a biography of the artist can you write from a video of a song? Corvus cornixtalk 19:24, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Artist is not on or neither is the video done by Def Jam, Artist paid a 9.99 fee to have music distributed through a new service offered by Tunecore and Island Def Jam called Island Def Jam Digital Distribution. http://www.idjfirstlook.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.27.0.20 (talk) 21:41, 10 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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