The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. No prejudice against speedy renomination per relatively low participation herein. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 06:39, 3 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Tiyamiyu[edit]

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No evidence that this name is notable. A deletion proposal (PROD) was removed by the creator of the article, without giving any reason. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:35, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I did put the etymology and concept of this surname up for other people that bear the name to have an indepth knowledge of this word only to have it deleted and someone elsewhere taking credit whom doesnt even understand the language in question i.e yoruba/kwa dialect and also see Tiyamiyu: meaning, definition, origin - WordSense.eu, where the article was republished with credits given to a non african (i seem confused how it was approved by the moderator at wordsense.eu).

Secondly, It has a web popularity of approximately 4,300 pages see Tiyamiyu - http://www.name-list.net/nigeria/surname/Tiyamiyu

Thirdly, it is confused with Tiamiyu the name of a town in arabia to a point that its spelt wrongly, see http://www.dailytrust.com.ng/weekly/index.php/philosofaith/9252-re-names-and-naming-among-muslims.

Fourthly, i am not putting it up because its my Forename or Surname but because the name is unique and the meaning seemed lost until i researched within the african community history of Iperu and leaders.

Finally, i ask is it wrong to enlighten people on this error and have editors whom have no knowledge of a lexicon to determine the fate of a word than to ask and seek clarifications. We all learn and i expect knowledge dosnt lie in a single individual. As a graduate of Philosophy i understand the need for emperical evidence in science but in logic its analytical, this has been a challenge in african history or tradition documentation. Even there exist no clear definition between oral tradition and oral history in Africa in general and Nigeria in particular^[1]. Thanks Tiyamiyu (talk) 19:12, 12 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment I have found that african oral tradition and values are mostly deleted from or not published on the view that it lacks verifiable evidence, secondly within wikipeadia editors whom is african and is on ground to verify sources. Tiyamiyu (talk) 15:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Looks just like Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ireyomi, with both articles having been created by editors with the same name as the article and both apparently being Nigerian. At least this one has sources, so I'm not sure about this one. I cleaned up the article just a bit and added the sources given above. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 02:39, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment The name has been a source of concern to the bearers as different versions are given to the meaning of the name by various people. The name was used by an African prince whom accepted islam but didnt want to be seen as abadoning cultural values and tradition. I have added additional reference and links. This is clearly different from Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Ireyomi. Tiyamiyu (talk) 15:15, 15 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt on this one. Fighting systemic bias is an important goal of Wikipedia. We currently have some references, which is a start, and the page creator has made a good faith statement that the subject is notable enough to have engendered some controversy within the native language in question. Assuming this is true, there should be additional references in existence. I do not have the lingual skill to go finding these additional references, but let's allow some time for native bilingual speakers to come in and improve the article. Fieari (talk) 05:07, 20 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment Thanks 'Fieari', i would look into more properly referenced links to similar controversy on this surname similar to the earlier reference.

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Thanks spirit of eagle Tiyamiyu (talk)

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