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The result was no consensus Mr.Z-mantalk¢ 21:35, 5 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Duttons[edit]

This article is of a group appearing on the current season of America's Got Talent. This is apparently their only notability, with the exception of a show that they produce themselves. Normally, appearing on America's Got Talent would be somewhat notable, except for the fact that so far, they've only made it to the first round, which many people do. Making it to the first round of a show doesn't make a group notable. You can also tell by the fact that this article wasn't created until after America's Got Talent aired. Lastly, the only external links/sources are their own website and a vacation site listing their small family show as an attraction. I made an attempt to contact the creator of the article, but he had little else to add to the page. I also tagged the page as possibly not satisfying the notability guideline for biographies.--(Review Me) R ^ParlateContribs_@ (Let's Go Yankees!) 02:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete based on the precedents that gameshow contestants are not notable unless they did something notable outside the show. This family fails that Corpx 03:37, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, if they win the show or more information comes out, or Merge into shows second season article, if they don't win. Too early to delete otherwise as things are just getting started. --164.107.222.23 03:57, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly, they havent done anything to establish any notability. Every game show contestant on every show isnt notable Corpx 03:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Right now they are not notable enough to be on wikipedia. If they win the show, then I think it is fine to have a article on them.--†Sir James Paul† 06:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 07:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep They have a show on national television dedicated to them, They meet WP:N. Atleast keep until America's Got Talent is over, and If nothing else comes out and noone expands the article, delete it. Warrush

The show is not dedicated to them. According to the show page, "is a talent show that features amateur singers, dancers, magicians, comedians and other performers of all ages competing for the advertised top prize". They're just contestants on a talent show that happens to be on TV Corpx 15:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Im not talking about America's Got Talent, im talking about them having a show dedicated to them on PBS. Look here under World Renown Performers. Warrush
I cant find any independant sources to collaborate that through a google search. Even if they had a "Christmas Special" (1 show) on PBS, I still dont think they're notable enough Corpx 16:59, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Duttons have 2 specials that are currently being distributed to Public Television Stations by NETA. Look here and here. Also see this page for additional information about the airing of the specials on PBS as posted by the Director of the specials. Both Specials have also been aired nationally on RFD-TV. I couldn't find any programming schedule archive on RFD-TV's website, but mention is made of it on this forum.

Comment - echo Corpx, without an independent source, their own webpage counts as self-publication and does not meet WP:RS. Even a PBS special means their claim to notability is dubious if it's a single special. Having a single special would seem more like an 'episode' than a 'show'.WLU 17:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Contestants on Survivor are not notable for being on the show unless they make it to the finals or have done something else. The Duttons have only made it to the second round, along with 70 others. If they make it further, the article can be recreated. Reywas92^Talk 16:10, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No significant coverage in reliable, third-party sources is cited in the article. That's needed in order to satisfy notability requirements. Nick Graves 01:20, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I heard of the Duttons because they tour nationally and I heard about their act before their TV appearance. I agree they aren't well established, but word of mouth does give them celebrity. I wouldn't be surprised if this article is deleted that it would have to come back because they got their own CMT show. BT14 00:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.