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The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 14:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Terry Hershey[edit]

This is a promotional article with no encyclopedic value. The subject is not notable - he's just an "inspirational speaker" and a garden designer. It was previously speedied for non-notability but reinstated so the author could improve it - the evidence of notability is thin to non-existent but there is now an assertion, so no longer speediable. andy 10:59, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete ugh, vanispamcruftisement. Guy (Help!) 20:49, 27 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I disagree that Terry is not notable. He has been very influential in the Spiritual Gardening movement. I couldn't find a Wikipedia article on that and haven't had the time to pull together resources to make one but it is a valid, growing movement both in the US and Europe. It is important and noteable to a growing number of people. Terry himself is a TV personality within his niche and has a following. I'm still learning the Wikipedia way and trying to add to the article to make it better. Avibodha 01:28, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, W.marsh 12:17, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment The above comment confuses notability with popularity. They are not directly related and popularity is not used as a barometer for inclusion. Some of the existing sources are really too trivial. It is currently marginal, however, so I will have to opt for a weak keep pending improvement. Adrian M. H. 12:50, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, I think, though needs tidying. Been the author of several books which seem to have a reasonable, if not bestselling position on Amazon's rankings, and being a regular contributor to a TV show on an international channel would probably allow him to meet WP:BIO under "the person has demonstrable wide name recognition"; out of curiosity, I presume this isn't the person after whom Terry Hershey Park is named? That'd make it conclusive, but I can't find any reference to connect the two. --DeLarge 13:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

That Terry is a she ([1]). Stammer 13:40, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - are there any reliable sources that conferr notability? This seems awfully vain/crufty to me... Popularity != notable. After all, how big is the "spiritual garden movement" anyway? ;-) /Blaxthos 15:44, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Not quite noteable for WP:BIO purposes. No real WP:RS. --Evb-wiki 20:48, 2 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete there is no way we can sort notability for inspiration speakers out except with references from RSs, and there aren't any. DGG 00:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete From what I see, the sources discussing the subject are either related to the subject or trivial. I'm also not seeing any reliable third-party sources discussing the role of evangelical Protestant Christianity in putting plants into the ground. --Charlene 09:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.