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The result was delete. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 00:45, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sura of Parthia[edit]

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See my and Dandamayev's comments at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Banu_Khorramdin#Banu_Khorramdin. Basically, looks like a hoax from an account with a vandalizing history. No results before 2011 on the web (found 4, all actually later and copied from wikipedia) or in google books. Anything later copied from wikipedia. Galobtter (pingó mió) 15:28, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete i didn't see any reliable source (neither primary nor secondary) for stating that this character even exist. i thinks it's fake and motivation of this action was a kind of feminist or "female epic" for bolding of present of women in persia's history. --Dandamayev (talk) 16:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions. MT Train^Talk 05:13, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. I believe this is a hoax. I'll note that calling her a Parthian hero, when the Parthians gave way to Sasanian Empire when she was supposedly 11 years old sounds unlikely. There was a battle at Sura between Romans and Parthians some years earlier - [1], [2], [3]. Finally, I would like to extend my apologies, on behalf of the community as a whole, to this woman who changed her name to Sura (possibly (OR) found from the Wikipedia article or a Wikipedia clone?) - it would seem that hoax articles have real world consequences.Icewhiz (talk) 08:11, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as failing WP:V. A daughter of Artabanus V does play a role in the invasion by Rome as the refusal to to marry her to Caracalla was used as a pretext for war, [4] but I am not finding this name or the description of any daughter as playing a military role in reliable sources. 24.151.116.12 (talk) 16:04, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete as a hoax. Kudos to Galobtter for spotting this.E.M.Gregory (talk) 17:43, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• DElete unless it is provided with RS references. The article purports to link her to two kings, but neither article names her, nor are women notable as participants in this period. The whole thing lacks credibility. I suspect this a hoax perpetrated by Jade Sura, as Icewhiz hints; of course I have no proof and may be wrong. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:25, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding Jade Sura thing, I don't think that is what Icewhiz is saying. Far more likely she just found it on wikipedia. Galobtter (pingó mió) 16:28, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

This article dates back to 2012. If I understand Jade's site correctly she posted there in 2018(which seems confirmed by the wider internet footprint of "jade sura"). Hoax articles would seem to have real world consequences - this is on us.Icewhiz (talk) 17:43, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, the 5th most visited website does have massive consequences. Sometimes they can be bad too :( (though Sura isn't a bad name, I suppose..) Galobtter (pingó mió) 17:56, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as hoax. Srnec (talk) 19:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Blatant Hoax. It's astonishing how so poorly cited an article has spread so quickly: a highly qualified academic has been fooled on the matter. ^[1] Assuming deletion is the decision, it should be moved to the list of hoaxes.FirefoxLSD (talk) 11:45, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - fails WP:V and I agree that it seems to be a hoax. Smmurphy^(Talk) 22:05, 3 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.