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The result was keep. JForget 00:22, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Slobbovia[edit]

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Non-notable roleplaying game/fictional world. This may be a well-developed article, but it doesn't have any third-party references; and virtually none seem to exist. It got a brief mention on the Boing Boing blog here [1] (note however that the article it links to [2], is by Greg Costikyan, one of the participants and so not an independent source), and has an article on everything2 [3], but beyond that I can't find any coverage in reliable sources not connected with the game itself. A couple of the people who were involved in the game went on to become notable, but that doesn't make it notable itself. Robofish (talk) 17:16, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep; a notable part of New York fandom, referenced by the notable participants, including Greg Costikyan's Another Day, Another Dungeon and Sharyn McCrumb's Bimbos of the Death Sun - not to mention the extensive writings of John Boardman; insisting that memes be so recent that they existed on the Web is presentism. We should instead be prepared to explain crottled greeps when they appear. (If this is deleted, large parts of it would only have to be repeated in Diplomacy (game) and Amateur press association, anyway.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:00, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • A move request is a different matter. While notable, it is not primary against Al Capp's Lower Slobbovia - and a dab tag which would indicate one and not the other would be useful. (Suggestions welcome.) Septentrionalis PMAnderson 19:07, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep; during its lifetime it was an important part of 70's NYC Diplomacy/science fiction fandom and of play-by-mail Diplomacy fandom in general. Material from Slobbovia made its way into other games, such as SPI's Sword & Sorcery. It is also known as an early example of the "shared world" concept that would become widespread in subsequent years in many science fiction anthologies. MarkVolundNYC (talk) 06:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep; the game served as training for several professional writers. In its time, Slobbovia was a very notable part of science fiction fandom in the U.S. and Canada. GABaker (talk) 21:16, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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