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The result was speedy deleted per CSD G7: One author who has requested deletion or blanked the page. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 20:21, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sholu[edit]

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Fictional drug in a non-notable novel. ALI ^{nom nom} 11:55, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. I can find no significant coverage of the novel: if the novel isn't notable, then, obviously, neither is its fictional drug. -- Rrburke (talk) 18:04, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

dw817's defense entry: May 20 2010[edit]

I hope this is the correct area to defend my article.
Barrier is a 194 page Ebook novel posted publicly on Booksie.com.
It has been readily made into PDF format so can be read by Kindle and other digital media.
I searched Wikipedia to see if there was an existing definition for Sholu, finding none I knew readers would inquire as to what it was so I thought it would be useful to my readers to build a definition page for it on Wikipedia.

There are over 700 readers to this novel not counting those not tabulated by Booksie alone so I think I am permitted to take offense when you use words like, "non-notable."

I have worked long days writing Barrier and an insult or misnomer, from someone as respected as ALI and Rrburke (from reading their profiles) can hurt an author's motivation considerably.

I understand you are just trying to help and would like to leave this matter open to discussion.

Thank you.
David W —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw817 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It would appear that you are the author of said book. Without significant coverage by reliable sources, the book does not appear notable enough for inclusion. Likewise, fictional elements in books are rarely given their own articles, unless the books have reached an extremely high bar of notability. See Wikipedia:Notability (books). I'm not trying to insult you personally. ALI ^{nom nom} 18:32, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

dw817's final defense entry: May 20 2010[edit]

Apology accepted, ALI.
Agreed, and worded succinctly, thank you. What I am seeing is three things.

[1] The word "Sholu" does not exist in Wikipedia. Had it been so, I would never have attempted an entry, despite its previous meaning. I did not choose the word for the sake of Wikipedia. The word "Sholu" is not to be defined in Wikipedia.

[2] My novel will never meet your standards for a definition of any kind, ever, no matter how much readership I get, with or without the meaning of the page, unless Wikipedia changes its policies. That is disappointing, but there is no room for argument here; Wikipedia is an exclusive arrangement, though change is consistent.

[3] Barrier will gain readership and ultimately be read by a thousand people as I have projected 2 volumes exceeding 500 pages total. I am glad for that and thank Booksie for having low enough standards to accept and project my writing.

As you desire to erase my page since it cannot achieve your current standards, please do so now with my thanks..

I have archived a copy of the definition page and this final mediation page should Wikipedia change its policies or request or require either or both pages in the future, you know how to reach me.

Sincerely,
David Wicker
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Dw817 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 20 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.