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The result was keep. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 01:57, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Byram[edit]

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Criteria for speedy deletion as it fails WP:Bio RM-Taylor (talk) 18:03, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:08, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:08, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no it does not meet criteria for speedy; but it does fail WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Giant Snowman 19:13, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - has now made his professional debut. Giant Snowman 16:20, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is valid and he started for Leeds United AFC against Shrewsbury Town today in the first round of the Cup see here http://www.leedsunited.com/news/20120811/united-cruise-to-cup-victory_2247585_2878205 and he also has a bio page on the official website here http://www.leedsunited.com/page/PlayerProfiles/0,,10273~61348,00.html. Seems to me this decision isn't so much Wikipedia related but more Football related considering who these 2 users support(Brighton and Bradford).

Sam Byram is also listed on the squad list here(In the midfield section)http://www.leedsunited.com/page/PlayerProfileIndex/0,,10273,00.html

86.15.195.205 (talk) 20:30, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - what a bizarre nomination. He's playing for a Championship team, and someone is proposing deletion? Don't get it ... Nfitz (talk) 21:45, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, he's not actually played in the Championship yet and only made his senior debut on 11 August, so it's not that bizarre. --Jimbo^[online] 23:17, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: The boy is 18 years old and just made his debut in an official competition against a fully-pro team. He only made his debut today so what do you expect from the article, a huge bio. It is fine the way it is for now and I bet Leeds have a bio on there website to use. --Arsenalkid700 (talk) 03:29, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Incubate until he debuts in the Championship. Now he doesn't pass any notability guideline (no significant media coverage or appearance in a fully professional league), but he might later. – Kosm1 fent 07:28, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: The player played in a League Cup tie on 11 August 2012, a first team competition, which I have always believed followed Wikipedia's guidelines, along with any player who plays in the FA Cup or Johnstone Paints Trophy. --Prof bed (talk) 10:26, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Because the Football League Cup is a competition restricted to members of the Football League, a fully professional league, appearances in it have for as long as I can remember counted as passing WP:NFOOTBALL and that guideline's predecessors. Mr Byram played the whole of a Football League Cup tie yesterday for a second-tier club. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:32, 12 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - have played in a cup-tie between two teams from fully pro league, and consensus is that it passes WP:NFOOTBALL. Mentoz86 (talk) 23:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Not sure how valid this is to the discussion but Sam Byram also recieved an article on a newspapers website here http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/leeds-united/latest-whites-news/leeds-united-young-sam-is-the-man-for-starting-spot-gray-1-4828771 mostly praises his performance, and talks about the other players. This is a newspaper source anyway, obviously because hes only 18 hes not as well known as the other squad players but he's getting there with his talent! 86.15.195.205 (talk) 03:32, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep made professional debut and likely to feature a lot more this year after impressing pre season — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.130.114.225 (talk) 09:16, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Keep had made his pro-debut and, as stated above, an appearance in a League Cup tie between two pro teams marks him as notable (or has as far as I can remember).--Egghead06 (talk) 17:11, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He has made his professional début for Leeds United's first team in a professional competition therefore he can be deemed to be a notable athlete/ sports person. IJA (talk) 15:56, 17 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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