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The result was keep. no consensus for deletion JForget 02:31, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SALT (quartet)[edit]

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The indications of notability in the article aren't anywhere near enough to clear WP:GNC. ~~No external sources~~Sources are primary sources.Shadowjams (talk) 11:58, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Contrary to the claim made here, an external source was included at the article's creation. All the Barbershop Harmony Society quartet champions have articles (in place since 2006), which led me to begin adding them for Sweet Adelines International champions. —ADavidB 12:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Within the musician notability criteria, the subject of this article satisfies criterion 9, having "won ... a major music competition", and in so doing became the most prominent representative of womens barbershop singing (satisfying criterion 7). —ADavidB 14:26, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. — Gongshow ^Talk 18:45, 19 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: While the initial source and another ~~are~~ may be considered primary, the A Cappella News source is secondary. —ADavidB 00:43, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NW (Talk) 15:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget 01:21, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reiterating - "a Swedish barbershop quartet that won the Sweet Adelines International Quartet Championship for 2007 in Las Vegas, Nevada in October 2006" That is the only claim to notability. The sources only backup that fact in the article. Nobody else has added any indications of notability although it's been tagged for what will be 3 weeks now. Shadowjams (talk) 06:57, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Reiteration – Winning a major competition is a criterion for notability. Nobody else has questioned the quartet's notability. —ADavidB 07:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Heh, ok. I thought everyone had forgot about this one. I guess my question is if this competition is notable. If it's a barbershop quartet, and this is the onlytime anybody's written about them, I don't see that as notable. But if this is a notable competition (I don't think it has a page itself) then perhaps winning it is enough on its own.
I think we'd both like to see more input on this issue. Shadowjams (talk) 07:34, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The "major competition" term isn't defined by the musician notability criteria, nor are examples given. The Sweet Adelines International organization which holds the competition has over 25,000 members. As noted in my first comment above, I patterned this article's creation after those for Barbershop Harmony Society champions; that organization has about 30,000 members. By winning these competitions, quartets become the most prominent representatives of their barbershop music style, another criterion for notability. —ADavidB 08:16, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per ADavidB's argument. Tomas e (talk) 15:34, 5 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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