The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete. While a straight vote-count leads to a tie or no consensus, most of the keep "votes" are in the manner of WP:WAX and WP:BIGNUMBER. Stifle (talk) 17:05, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Higa (YouTube comedian)[edit]

Unsourced article on a non-notable YouTube personality. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 19:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep All content are now sourced and cited. Unarguably notable based on: (1) a large fan base of Subscribers: 473,730 and Channel Views: 11,584,274, (2) top ranks and hits on YouTube, (3) recognition from other Internet celebrities(Michael Buckley), (4) recognition from Hollywood celebrities(Will Ferrell and Milo Ventimiglia), (5) IMDB status, and now (6) news citation from prominent new sources. Lycheeberries (talk) 14:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Absolutely notable. Ryan Higa has over 11 million channel views. He is more popular, infact, than the Internet celebrity Michael Bickly. NigaHiga has twice as many subscribers than he does. No one is trying to get rid of Micheal's article. He is making his name known. And Very soon Ryan Higa is on the way to becoming a house hold name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Supergirl2008 (talk • contribs) 21:01, 21 August 2008 (UTC) — Supergirl2008 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Delete Totally nonnotable guy, has already been speedy deleted four times as Ryan Higa. Let's salt the page. Nyttend (talk) 21:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep He is notable. He will be in a Hollywood movie, is the number one most subscribed channel this month, number two most subscribed channel and comedian of all time, and has an article on the Honolulu Advertiser's website ([1]). There are pages for other YouTubers on Wikipedia, but how many of them can say that they are in the top two of most subscribed of all time and going to be stars of a Hollywood movie? His latest video "The Ninja Glare" has had many honors worldwide, charting top rated, most viewed, most discussed in the U.S., Australia, the U.K., Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, Germany, Brazil, Mexico, Russia, and more. His most viewed video, "How to Be Gangster" has over 16 million views. "How to Be Emo" is right behind it at 13 million views. "How to Be Gangster" is currently #10 at the most discussed comedy video of all time on YouTube, and #6 as the most favorited comedy video of all time. – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 23:10, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment In fact, I suggest that this page be moved to NigaHiga, because not only is Ryan involved in it, but his friend Sean Fujiyoshi is also involved. – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 23:23, 19 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and salt per Nyttend. And "he is going to be in a movie" is crystalballing. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 01:43, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Response How is it crystalballing if it will definitely happen? It's not a "this might happen", it will happen. But, if you choose to exclude the movie, then look at the other statistics. He seems notable to me. – Obento Musubi (C • G • S) 03:08, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's crystalballing because nobody knows how notable or successful the movie will be. All we know is that there may be a movie. Plus, with the way hollywood works, there's no guarantee that it'll see the light of day. Plus, I didn't see any actual third-party sources to prove the notability. Youtube rankings alone aren't going to prove his notability without substantial coverage from reliable third-party sources. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 03:29, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Completely unsourced. MikeWazowski (talk) 05:25, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete in current state, keep with notability properly asserted and sourced per WP:RS. --MattWT 08:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and if "Salt" is just another word for protect against recreation until he meets our policies and guidelines than so be it. At present he doesn't meet the notability, verifiability, or WP:ENTERTAINER policies/guidelines and therefore does not require an article . The movie thing is crystal balling because there is no guarantee that the film WILL occur per our policies and guidelines on Future films and such as well as the actual policy/guidline here. Jasynnash2 (talk) 09:19, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, by "salt" I mean salting the earth — see WP:SALT. Nyttend (talk) 13:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That was what I thought you meant but, was kind of "fuzzy headed" at the time and was too lazy to look up the policy for a refresh at the time. Jasynnash2 (talk) 14:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and salt. No sources indicating notability. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 22:21, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Nigahiga is absolutely noticeable. He's number most subscribed on youtube and has millions of views! He is more than twice as popular as Michael Buckley but no one is trying to delete that page. Jason Garrick (talk) 02:25, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - There's a reason why Michael Buckley isn't nominated for deletion; He has sources. And a lot of them, in fact. He has been the subject of multiple, substantial media coverage, whereas Ryan Higa has not. It doesn't matter HOW many Youtube subscribers they have; So long as there are no sources, there is no justification for keeping it. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 02:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - If he's not kept, then why are Smosh and Tay Zonday? --Lord Sunday 14:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - While I don't know about Smosh, Tay Zonday actually has sources. We've been saying this all along; You NEED sources. Rwiggum (^Talk/_Contrib) 15:14, 24 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Does not have any reliable sources and like most hollywood movies the movie might not even be good —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiFreakster (talk • contribs) 22:46, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.