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The result was delete. Nobody actually !voted keep, but a couple of contributors did suggest that it probably cleared notability guidelines, and that sources could probably be found if sought. Nobody has actually identified any such sources, however. Steve Smith (talk) 21:18, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Royal Holloway, University of London Boat Club[edit]

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Non notable sports club, no coverage in reliable sources Aloneinthewild (talk) 12:45, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions. Aloneinthewild (talk) 12:45, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Aloneinthewild (talk) 12:45, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Coverage seems to be available to an adequate standard for everything claimed here. I'm confused though: why is Royal Holloway not notable when St Edmund's is? In the US, we have whole categories and sub-categories for college rowing: Category:College rowing in the United States. So is college rowing a notable topic or not? And why would this vary between nations? Andy Dingley (talk) 13:02, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not exactly sure on the criteria for US sports article so cannot really comment on that. However, this team probably has 50 members max, has no notable members, no mention in sources of wins at major national competitions such as BUCS, Head of the River or Henley Regattas. Compared to University of London Boat Club or Oxford Brookes University Boat Club. The only source here is the club website and that isn't active anymore. It probably could have a brief mention at the Student Union article, if that was the outcome of discussion. Aloneinthewild (talk) 14:00, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

So is the point here, "Royal Holloway don't have a real boat club worthy of note?" Because otherwise we're either saying that some UK colleges are inherently more WP:Notable than others (Durham have 11 boat club articles here), or else we're judging objective notability on the subjective basis of current article quality. My own college ws A7'ed some years ago (I was physically a good rower, but a lazy sportsman and I really don't do mornings). Andy Dingley (talk) 15:21, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 18:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Its been going for 95 years. The article needs references but it would be very surprising if it were not just as notable as the other rowing clubs.Rathfelder (talk) 09:03, 1 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment, "Its been going for 95 years." - please see WP:ITSOLD, that said, an obvious merge target for this would be a "Sports" section/subsection at Royal Holloway, University of London (i note there is no mention of this club in the article, is that a reflection of its non-notability? or the college's emphasis on academic, rather that sporting, endeavours (there is a paragraph on sports stating that "some of the best sports facilities of any university institution in the London area,[27] and helped build the college's reputation as a sporting institution of excellence" in the redelopment subsection of Royal Holloway, University of London#Campus). Coolabahapple (talk) 02:57, 2 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Necrothesp (talk) 14:20, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - clear fail of WP:GNG. There is nothing sourced that is mergeable. With regard to a comparison with the situation in America, there is a clear difference. In the US college sports are a big deal. In the UK, however, with a few notable exceptions e.g The Boat Race, they generally attract little, if any public or mainstream media attention. Just Chilling (talk) 15:44, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I thought this is an automatic fail so there's no point searching. On second thoughts I decided to do a search and as expected there was nothing there. Szzuk (talk) 20:35, 7 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.