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The result was keep. Withdrawn by nominator. Multiple years of coverage by reliable sources precludes WP:BLP1E argument. (non-admin closure) Ifnord (talk) 03:55, 27 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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Non-notable singer and a case, however tragic, of WP:BLP1E. She is notable for a single performance on an American reality contest show. She gave the performance while suffering with cancer; despite having a guaranteed place on the show, had to drop out. All very sad, all very compelling reality television I'm sure, but this is a clear case of WP:BLP1E. As the reality show itself is not a reliable source, she has received no significant coverage in independent sources. I also want to draw editor's attention to the fact that many of the cited sources are NBC affiliates. Because the show is an NBC show, these are ads disguised as news; only these sources contain her basic biographical details. While we would normally treat the NBC affiliates are independent, secondary sources, I feel we are constrained to not do so in this case for the purpose of establishing notability. To explain why WP:PROD is inappropriate: User:137.27.65.235 and User:GUtt01 are fiercely duking out a dispute over the article title over on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents § IP 137.27.65.235 - Behaviour issue, and are likely to challenge a PROD. We need a formal AfD consensus. Psiĥedelisto (talkcontribs) please always ping! 00:43, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Comment: I might agree to a Redirect to AGT:S16 article if she should pass away - It would be suitable for coverage in that article, under a section regarding incidents. If so, there would notable coverage about how she felt regarding her withdrawal, and on Simon Cowell's opinion on the matter, prior to the possible event. If not agreeable with others, then fair enough. GUtt01 (talk) 10:55, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles, which says a musician "may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria" including "Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself".

    WP:REALITYSINGER says, "Singers and musicians who are only notable for participating in a reality television series may be redirected to an article about the series, until they have demonstrated that they are independently notable." The guideline does not support deletion or redirection of this article since the subject was already notable prior to her appearance on the reality television series. Cunard (talk) 11:05, 19 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Why would you delete this page? For obvious reasons her career was cut very short. There will be no more details other than a death notice. She was beautiful, talented, she deserves a mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oregrozmar (talkcontribs) 03:52, 25 September 2021 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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