The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. If you want people to clean up an article, use ((cleanup)), not ((afd1)). Kimchi.sg 15:18, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

mrbrown[edit]

Mrbrown (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

actually i nominate this article so people would get nervous and actually improve the article to prevent it from deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miss purple (talk • contribs) 17:02, 25 December 2006

• Question - When did we gain the ability to start articles with lower-case letters? Otto4711 18:29, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Strong object - mrbrown is one of the most prominent bloggers in Singapore that he used to write a column for Today. If it is notable in Singapore, it is notable in Wikipedia. --Rifleman 82 18:38, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Keep- On first glance and after looking at external links, this article does not meet the notability criteria. --- Skapur 20:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Would you like to quantify this based on WP:NN? --Rifleman 82 20:47, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • Here are my reasons: mrbrown is not the main subject of any source cited in the arctile which is required by WP:BIO "The person has been the primary subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the person.". The numbers cited for downloads have not been indepedently verified. The sources for the articles cited seems to be mrbrown himself and the other articles are on mrbrown's own web site. I will change my vote to keep if multiple independent sources can be cited. --- Skapur 21:23, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • He has been more than a passing mention in *at least* the following articles:

1. Changing colour, The Straits Times (Singapore), November 9, 2006 Thursday, LIFE! - LIFE BUZZ, 170 words
2. Govt had to deal with mrbrown's criticisms: PM, The Straits Times (Singapore), August 21, 2006 Monday, 3465 words, Lynn Lee
3. Blogging's more than idle chatter; It may, over time, help to raise political consciousness, The Straits Times (Singapore), August 2, 2006 Wednesday, REVIEW - OTHERS, 1013 words, Andy Ho, Senior Writer
4. Your Insights; Last week, Insight examined the issue of blogger mr brown, who drew a strong response from the Government following a newspaper column, and also discussed the evolving roles of the online and traditional media. Here is what some of our readers had to say:, The Straits Times (Singapore), July 29, 2006 Saturday, REVIEW - INSIGHT, 360 words
5. mr brown opens door to media debate, The Straits Times (Singapore), July 22, 2006 Saturday, 239 words, Li Xueying
6. No action against mr brown's supporters, The Straits Times (Singapore), July 22, 2006 Saturday, 221 words
7. Did the Govt really shut down a bak chor mee stall?; If it's Internet chatter, it's okay. But because it was published in a mainstream newspaper, it's not. So said Minister Lee Boon Yang, explaining the Government's stiff response to a newspaper column by blogger mr brown. Li Xueying sits in as MP Penny Low, blogger Bernard Leong and polytechnic lecturer Gan Su-Lin come together for a round-table discussion to discuss the role of the different media, The Straits Times (Singapore), July 22, 2006 Saturday, REVIEW - INSIGHT, 2033 words
8. Cops looking into gathering in support of mr brown, The Straits Times (Singapore), July 10, 2006 Monday, 390 words, Aaron Low
9. Today drops Mr Brown column, The Straits Times (Singapore), July 8, 2006 Saturday, 193 words
10. Today paper suspends blogger's column; Move comes after Govt slams mr brown's latest piece on the high cost of living here, The Straits Times (Singapore), July 7, 2006 Friday, 593 words

--Rifleman 82 21:54, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I changed my vote to keep. Please incorporate the above citations in the article if you have not done so already. --- Skapur 21:59, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment He seems notable, but I wish we had more multilingual users to search for this kind of thing. Dar-Ape 21:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable bio.--Vsion 03:26, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Was the subject of a fairly major political controversy (at least by Singapore standards). Jpatokal 05:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, Mrbrown is one of Singapore's most well known bloggers, he once had a column in Singapore's papers, he has lots of mention in the Singapore internet scene, its hard to deny that he is non-notable. Terence Ong 06:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Rifleman 82, and incorporate all those citations somewhere in the article. -ryand 07:10, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep strong. Singapore bloggers are some of the most popular in the world and Mr Brown is one of the most notable. And could be the most notable male Singapore blogger. Hopefully the nomination for this AfD was a mistake? DelPlaya 10:16, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.