The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Not one of the keep commentators mentioned any type of policy here, clear consensus it fails WP:V.Secret ^account 20:58, 19 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Mouldings Industry Association[edit]

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No independent coverage or references to be found anywhere - not notable -- _nonsense ferret 16:08, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Lack of coverage and references, even though that notability is not proven by a Google Result, a search does not give any result. Is this fabricated? Eduemoni ^↑talk↓ 16:14, 7 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United Kingdom-related deletion discussions. LlamaAl (talk) 02:14, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions. LlamaAl (talk) 02:14, 9 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep -- Looks to me like a significnat industrial association. An association of this kind with nearly 4000 members ought to be notable. I agree it is a bad article, but that is not a reasaon for deletion. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:38, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The reason for deletion isn't because it is a bad article, but because none of the details from the association's website are verifiable - can you find a single independent source anywhere? notice for example the picture of 'mouldings house' in telford [1] - you might be forgiven for noticing a remarkable similarity to Spear House in Staffordshire [2]. Bit disappointed in your research on this one to be honest.---- _nonsense ferret 13:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

That is indeed odd, and Google Street View confirms that the image is indeed that of Spear House. -- Whpq (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I believe Spear House was the call centre where many of the calls were routed, but postal address is a different location, which explains the confusion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Shy Suzy (talk • contribs) — Shy Suzy (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

Delete - I can find no coverage about this organisation. I agree wtih Peterkingiron that large industry associations ought to be notable, but in this case, the lack of coverage would indicate that notability is not met, and indeed, verifiability is an issue as I found no third party sources that confirm any information in the article. -- Whpq (talk) 15:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Agree that the page needs to be improved, but again number of members is significant — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shy Suzy (talk • contribs) — Shy Suzy (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Reply Number of members does not denote notability. -- Whpq (talk) 11:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  - Reply Yes perhaps, but quality of members is considered important, and I note that many of the largest retailers are members such as DadoRails.co.uk, SkirtingBoards.com, SkirtingBoards.co.uk, SkirtingBoard.co.uk, TimberMerchants.net, Architraves.co.uk, Architraves.com etc. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shy Suzy (talk • contribs) 13:04, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    - Reply - Notability is not inherited from its members. -- Whpq (talk) 14:02, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LlamaAl (talk) 00:05, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Must agree that the quality of the members, combined with the quantity makes this a notable organisation. I shall reach out to some of them to contribute further information to improve the page.— Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcelBrandon (talk • contribs)
Delete - Notability is not shown and can't be established due to lack of coverage or any sources. "Mouldings Industry Association" hits are either pages of its "member" sites or various advertising boards. Ezhuks (talk) 13:22, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Iff verifiable, then keep; else delete and block submitter as hoaxer. DS (talk) 19:23, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment - Verifiability does not equate to notability. -- Whpq (talk) 20:40, 15 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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