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The result was no consensus. North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:50, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Tracey (journalist)[edit]

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Of the twenty-six sources cited in the article (as of 05:50, 21 September 2022 (UTC)), only ten are secondary. Those are, in chronological order:

1. "Amateur video shows TCNJ arrest at Coulter event" (26 February 2009) and "TCNJ student pleads guilty to disrupting Ann Coulter event" (14 April 2009) – two articles in a local newspaper about his arrest at an Ann Coulter event.
2. "West Caldwell man wins journalism award" (9 July 2010) – a two-sentence article in a local newspaper about him winning "the award for CampusProgress.org Breakthrough Story or Series".
3. "Did Rep. Maxine Waters 'shove' a reporter? You decide" (4 June 2017) and "'Young Turks' Correspondent Says Rep. Maxine Waters 'Shoved' Him" (5 June 2017) – two articles about a politician "walk[ing] away from an interview with Tracey and push[ing] aside his hand and microphone" (quoting the Wikipedia article).
4. "The Paranoid Center" (26 March 2019) – only a trivial mention: "... the strongest skeptics of the Russiagate narrative have been left-wing journalists – Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, Michael Tracey and others."
5. "Should The Daily Beast have exposed the man behind 'drunk Pelosi' video?" (3 June 2019) – only a trivial mention: "Others who jumped on board to criticize The Daily Beast included ... freelance journalist Michael Tracey, formerly of The Young Turks."
6. "Leftists Shouldn't Go on Tucker Carlson" (12 July 2019) – only mentions Michael Tracey in context of his appearances on Tucker Carlson Tonight and the two times he criticized the show and Carlson.
7. "The Trailer: What we've learned from the great mask war" (28 May 2020) – only trivial mentions.
8. "Left Heretics and the New Media Collective" (15 September 2020) – one paragraph about some Twitter slapfight in which he participated, one sentence about his coverage of the "looting and riots", and several trivial mentions.

All in all, the coverage is rather sparse and trivial, and Michael Tracey does not seem to be sufficiently notable to warrant a Wikipedia article. Kleinpecan (talk) 10:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Authors and Politics. Kleinpecan (talk) 10:16, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Weak keep looking beyond what is in the article at the moment, I found this piece which exclusively focuses on Tracey. Altogether, the article passes WP:BASIC.--User:Namiba 12:52, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete A bunch of secondary sources and one ok good source, not really there yet. A few more god sources like the Daily Dot, we should be ok though. Oaktree b (talk) 15:22, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep theres a lot of unnecessary references but between the ones which actually talk about the subject and the daily dot article Kleinpecan found I do think that WP:GNG is satisfied. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:42, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Journalism-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 19:50, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Looking through the article, he doesn't seem notable enough. There are a thousand internet personalities just like this and most of them don't deserve articles, either. When you have to start citing Youtube and Twitter to fill out the citations for a biographical article, that's a sign the subject doesn't meet notability. 109.78.213.136 (talk) 20:37, 21 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete besides for the DailyDot article, none of the secondary sources seem to give significant coverage of the subject. IntrepidContributor (talk) 06:43, 22 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete As I said, the only arguably notable thing that's happened in his career was pretending to have been shoved by Maxine Waters. Maybe he deserves some brief mention on a page about political internet humor/memes. fi (talk) 08:18, 23 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Horse Eye's Back. I also found four additional sources which had not been considered yet (I have expanded the article using these and the Daily Dot article):
  • "Michael Tracey: when does anti-war become pro-Putin?" (19 April 2022) - Unherd piece which focuses exclusively on Tracey and his Ukraine/Putin contrarianism
  • "Tankies Sinking In Ukraine’s Muddy Fields" (March 25, 2022) - non-trivial coverage in Above The Law, discussing Tracey alongside Aaron Maté and Glenn Greenwald as three prominent examples of contemporary tankies

In addition, there were shorter but still non-trivial discussions of Tracey's views in Foreign Policy [1] and The Bulwark [2].

Regards, HaeB (talk) 07:31, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: Passes GNG easily. Macktheknifeau (talk) 18:24, 24 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Meets GNG. Thriley (talk) 10:14, 28 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.