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The result was no consensus. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 06:41, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Matthew T. Ryan[edit]

local politician (mayor of the small city of Binghamton, New York) that won't have any nontrivial coverage outside of the Southern Tier. Fails WP:POLITICIAN ccwaters (talk) 18:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Per WP:Politician this politician is not elected to a first level subnational office and has no other factors for notabilitiy such as signifigant press coverage. Rcurtis5 (talk) 22:06, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Looks pretty non-notable. Local coverage about stuff that every mayor does, but that's about it. Niteshift36 (talk) 08:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - per se notable as the mayor of a city that is the center of a media market - the largest city in the Southern Tier. Bearian (talk) 01:10, 23 July 2009 (UTC) BTW, Binghamton has 47,380 people, and its MSA has about 240,000. Bearian (talk) 01:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC) P.S. WP:POLITICIAN says "Major local political figures who have received significant press coverage.[7] Generally speaking, mayors are likely to meet this criterion...." Bearian (talk) 01:15, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Since WP:POLITICIAN says "are likely to meet", there is no per se notability rule for mayors. A google search for "Matthew Ryan binghamton" returned only 67,400 results[1], a substantial portion of which came from his own websites and/or the city's. Google news returned 69 results for the same search.[2] Tim Song (talk) 12:46, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I'm a Southern Tier emigrant: I'm interested enough to routinely skim through local news, but distanced enough to not be blinded by civic pride. WP:POLITICIAN does not say any mayor gets an automatic pass. If anything, Juanita Crabb is a borderline candidate for an article, more for her work at Sister Cities International than as mayor in the 80ies. Between her and Ryan, there where about 2-3 mayors whose names I cannot recall. Any press outside of the area for Ryan is most likely to be trivial quotations in the aftermath of April's shooting. 2008 census estimates have Binghamton at 44k+ or just slightly above the average turnout of a Philadelphia Phillies home game. ccwaters (talk) 13:16, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. 250 articles at least mention him in his role as mayor of Binghamton: http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch?q=mayor+binghamton+(%22matthew+t+ryan%22+OR+%22matt+t+ryan%22+OR+%22matt+ryan%22+OR+%22matthew+ryan%22)&btnG=Search&hl=en&ned=uk&um=1&scoring=a. 1/5, or 50, of those stories are specifically about him: http://news.google.co.uk/archivesearch?q=(intitle%3Amayor+OR+intitle%3Aryan)++binghamton+(%22matthew+t+ryan%22+OR+%22matt+t+ryan%22+OR+%22matt+ryan%22+OR+%22matthew+ryan%22)&btnG=Search&hl=en&ned=uk&um=1&scoring=a. Where does it say that local press coverage never "count" for notability? Fences&Windows 18:32, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as insufficiently notable. No evidence this person has received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. Brief mentions in various articles are not sufficient to meet the WP:GNG. — Satori Son 21:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. The mayor of a city with a population of 50k surely received significant coverage in multiple reliable sources. --Pink Bull (talk) 22:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Comment If this article survives, I request that it be renamed per naming conventions and disambigged from Matthew Ryan. I don't think there's any real pattern of him being called "Matthew T. Ryan". I believe it was just the creator's own attempt at disambiguation. ccwaters (talk) 00:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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