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The result was delete. Not seeing a successful argument against BLP1E J04n(talk page) 16:17, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maggie Lieu[edit]

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Does not meet WP:PROF. The possible notability by the GNG seems to be only 1EVENT base on not being selected for the Mars trip. The policy is NOT NEWS, and NOT TABLOID DGG ( talk ) 01:52, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete off to a good (recent) start but not yet enough citations in a very highly cited field to pass WP:Prof#C1: WP:Too soon. Only other possibility is a WP:BLP1E for failing to be selected for the Mars trip. Xxanthippe (talk) 05:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC).[reply]
Keep I didn't realise that the Dutch are planning to get to Mars before Elon Musk. Anyway, this person got lots of coverage over time for her involvement and so passes WP:BASIC. Andrew D. (talk) 08:39, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per WP:BLP1E. Wholly inappropriate article, largely a collection of trivia based on a tortuous analysis of primary sources. At this point in time, the subject is far from notable as a scientist. If she is notable for her involvement in the Mars One affair, then the lead should go like "Maggie Lieu was a finalist in the Mars One competition ...", which would be unencyclopedic (WP:1EVENT, WP:NOTNEWS) and a disservice to the subject. Rentier (talk) 19:00, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi all, I have tried to improve but understand and agree with your points. What do you mean by "a disservice to the subject"? Jesswade88 (talk) 20:18, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Many people take a pretty dim view of the Mars One project and being pidgeonholed as a "former Mars One contestant" might not be a good thing. Rentier (talk) 21:13, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete an orphan with admittedly a fair few references, but I'm only seeing one event, being a failure, and then a CV of someone who works in a high tech industry. Perhaps I should get someone to create an article about me. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:30, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Is TRM appearing at the O2 like the subject? Does TRM appear in numerous books like the subject? Didn't think so. But hi-tech and Mars colonisation aren't that important anyway, are they? What really matters is that you can kick a ball like Luke Woolfenden (age 19) and Tristan Nydam (age 18), right? The systemic bias on display here is blatant. Andrew D. (talk) 23:11, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. WP:Other stuff. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:24, 22 February 2018 (UTC).[reply]

Delete I can understand the sentiment, but it is not there. Fails WP:BIO. scope_creep (talk) 22:46, 22 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete--per Rentier and DGG.~ Winged Blades^Godric 07:41, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep There is significant coverage of her over time as per Andrew Davidson. Passes GNG. Plus, she wasn't a failure, she chose to pull out. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:43, 23 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Agree with BLP1E nature, but also not notable as a scientist (a few low double-digit citation papers in a high citation field). Agricola44 (talk) 03:14, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article clearly explains she's not notable and references this accurately. Szzuk (talk) 14:36, 26 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:GNG. Hmlarson (talk) 03:28, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The WP:BLP1E discussion so far has convinced me with nothing else being notable in terms of GNG. Kingofaces43 (talk) 05:35, 27 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. WP:TOOSOON. She may develop adequate significant notability at some point in her career, but not going to Mars does not constitute encyclopedic notability. Softlavender (talk) 11:24, 1 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep meets WP:GNG, significant source coverage (although whoever cited the Daily Mail - please do not do that again) from a news search. If you want to start a family on Mars, and you can, well it's a free universe. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 14:34, 2 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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