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The result was Delete. This AfD was never properly opened, and ere was never properly closed, yet the article was deleted and salted nonetheless. Nobody else could ever be admitted here, because this door was made only for you. I am now going to shut it. (non-admin closure)jp×g 21:59, 22 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, I saw that the articel of this person is deleted! I am now currently work on a draft page about this person. Person have lead role in Pokemon and other characters, a lead role in Winx and later in WOW to! Haven comes to Florida supercon. When I can find a video from that con I'll pick all things what she saying when people asked her questions for now it is beter for draft!--Maxie1hoi (talk) 20:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This claims to be about a musician but it reads as if it is about a group. Whatever it is about it is sourced from a few very local sources in Illinois and there is nothing substantive or reliable her. Fails WP:GNGVelellaVelella Talk 22:58, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He is very accomplished and is still making music. His income is about $100,000 a year from music. He has almost a million. Dennis D. Dennis Drust (talk) 21:04, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
His groups are very well know and many people read this page. David Robbins 21:07, 26 June 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brandon Michael Gill (talk • contribs)
Delete. So clearly fails WP:MUSICBIO. I wasn't able to locate any additional, independent verifiable sources to indicate this subject is encyclopedic. The contributors above are likely WP:COI, besides, what he possibly earns per year based on his membership in a band is not valid cause for notability. ERK talk 04:08, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:43, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
None notable local councillor who failed to get elected at the last general election. I see nothing notable about being "openly pagan". CivisHibernius (talk) 22:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. While a county councillor can get into Wikipedia if they can be sourced well enough to pass WP:GNG, it is not a level of office that confers an automatic WP:NPOL pass on all county councillors — but the sourcing here, which relies on two news articles and a raw table of election results, is not solid enough to satisfy GNG. And being an unelected candidate in the national election is not a notability freebie either. Bearcat (talk) 15:51, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not enough to pass WP:GNG. As the editor mentioned above, this subject does not qualify under WP:NPOL either. ERK talk 04:11, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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I prodded this article in Oct. 2015, but it's creator (a true WP:SPA) added some additional sources afterwards. Looking more closely at those sources, I still have some concerns that this is a misuse of Wikipedia for promotion, and that this person is not notable.
The Forbes piece is lengthy, but it's an interview conducted by a "contributor", which should not be confused with their journalism. Interviews are poor for establishing notability, since they are not fully independent of the subject. The author's bio there says that in addition to being a freelance journalist, he also runs a "boutique PR Company", which is okay, but not a great sign. Forbes hosts a lot of blog content with only limited editorial oversight, much like Huffington Post's "The Blog".
There was also a Huffington Post link in the EL section: "The Millionaire E-commerce Titan Making Big Deals: Khuram Dhanani". The link is now dead, and the title is... odd, which suggests this was another blog post. It looks like all of the author's posts there have been deleted[1] but he appears to be a nootropic pill and powder seller, not a journalist or recognized expert.
The Inc. article is an editorial column by a PR person, not a journalist or academic. It does contain some limited details about Dhanani, but most of it just repeats Dhanani's generic business advice without any additional commentary.
The Tech Cocktail article is even more generic and light on substance, and the reliability of that source is debatable.
The C4commerce.com link is dead, but unless the domain got repurposed recently, that isn't an outlet for reliable sources.
This interview is from Bosmol Social Media, which just looks like some guy's blog to me.
This source is just a site where Dhanani posted in the comment section! This suggests bombardment.
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English language sources are hard to come by. I don't know the subject's full name in Bengali, so I can't check that. Also, this article's in a right state. Adam9007 (talk) 22:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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a defense attorney in the highly notable O.J. Simpson murder trial and also had an accomplished career as an academic, writer and civil servant, but there doesn't seem to be much coverage of him as an individual outside of passing mentions Prisencolin (talk) 21:55, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep. Some citations in GS plus legal activities. Xxanthippe (talk) 23:57, 21 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]
Keep. There's some work to be done here, for sure, but there are enough good sources around to meet notability for me. As mentioned above, he has some GS citations, and is former Dean of Santa Clara University Law School. There's enough for me to suggest he qualifies as WP:ACADEMIC. It's also worth noting that his role on O.J.'s legal team wasn't exactly minor. ERK talk 04:28, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He exists and appeared on TV but that is about as far as the single ref takes us. You don't get notability just by appearing on TV. Fails WP:GNGVelellaVelella Talk 21:42, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable television figure and real estate figure.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:35, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - note that I moved this article from its original title of Mike Baird (Flipman Mike) (and trimmed the original intro of "Mike Baird is a father, husband, and successful real estate investor and design educator. He is the host and creator of the reality TV show"), whoever wrote this may have intended him to be more famous as something else. But I can't find any reliable secondary sources about him in any of these contexts. --McGeddon (talk) 07:54, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. My mom loves these type of shows, but she's not a reliable source, nor is subject notable. — Wyliepedia 05:32, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. There's nothing, source wise, to indicate his notability. The single source is hardly enough to pass WP:GNG and really, doesn't do too much to indicate what makes him encyclopedic. As per nom, appearing on TV doesn't confer automatic notability. ERK talk 04:33, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep per no calls for deletion beyond the nominator and unanimous consensus from the participating editors. A non-admin closure. And Adoil Descended (talk) 13:27, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not established. Other than a couple production details, only in-universe plot material is sourced. There don't seem to be any good sources for critical impact of the topic. TTN (talk) 21:10, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy/strong Keep I was originally going to comment and then provisionally lean towards keep until I found some sources. However the first source I found was Anime Classics Zettai! which compares the Zentradi to the Laputans in Gulliver's Travels and s a parody/social commentary on human tendencies. It also makes further comments about a particular group of Zentradi, again making social commentary in a different way. These strike me as extremely strong indications of notability from a single source because they are compared to both a well known piece of fiction as well as the very real world study of humanity. This is before we consider that the Zentradi are a third of the drive behind the story of the first Macross series (the others being the titular vehicle and the love triangle) so there are 30+ years of reviews and other discussions on them as a core component. This subject matter strikes me very much as less a case of a debate over notability, and more a case of finding the best sources out of the many that exist. The cleanup is easy.SephyTheThird (talk) 23:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Plenty of independent RS'es exist. I've left out any primary sources, and note that this fictional race appears in both multiple anime series and multiple book adaptations. News: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... Books: 6, 7, 8, 9... Scholar: 10, 11... Jclemens (talk) 23:26, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The grand majority of those are just simple name-drops without any context, making them worthless for this article. The fact that it's mentioned in the larger context of the series a bunch of times doesn't really scream notability. TTN (talk) 23:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
But you didn't propose to merge it anywhere; you nominated it for deletion. I'm still in favor of keeping it as a standalone article, but you'd've had more of a leg to stand on if you'd proposed a merger. Considering that there are two very different interpretations of this race, from Super Dimensional Fortress Macross and from Robotech, that would be a poor choice as well, so I prefer to keep it as a standalone article. Jclemens (talk) 20:39, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
For what it's worth I don't think there is an issue with the nomination, even though I strongly disagree with it. Ultimately there is a cause for concern with the article and bringing a discussion to AFD to propose a merge isn't very sensible. There are better ways to propose merges. Some AFD's do discuss the option of a merge, but these are almost as second options when the nom realises there is a fine line. Besides, I don't think a merger is suitable. Either the article has enough sources or it doesn't and we then decide if we expect to find them. A merge wouldn't make sense because of the nature of the information, you'd be looking more at a redirect and writing new content. Also where would you merge or redirect it to given that as you point out there are multiple adaptations of the same source material not to mention the subsequent media entries that also make use of them.SephyTheThird (talk) 21:22, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Some things are surprisingly notable, this one based on the sources looks to be one of them . - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 00:24, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: for the above reasons. There is plenty of RS'es to support this page. Aoba47 (talk) 05:29, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep one of the most notable alien races in anime history along with Saiyan (Dragon Ball). Here's a recent Forbes magazine article and even then it's not a casual mention. [2]AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 17:11, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I know the outcome isn't going to change at this point, but am I just not understanding how notability works? This is hardly really any different than any of the Transformers cruft I've nominated recently. I'm sure half of those could have a decent amount of sources where the source itself is reliable, but the actual content is limited to all of a name-drop. Including the above, pretty much every source listed here is utterly trivial. It seems like everybody is going with the mindset that "the topic 'should' be notable, so it should just be assumed that there's plenty of sources on it." I'm sure you could get five or ten sources mentioning the topic, but so far those mentions are all of nothing. The little note about how they thematically used the music in the above source is something, but that's much more geared towards a section for the main series article on music. TTN (talk) 20:21, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
TTN, if I can put it bluntly, you thrive on kicking down sandcastles little children have built in the sand because they don't meet building codes. Sure, there's a lot of stuff that's not encyclopedic, but what you are ignoring is that all of these volunteer editors' labors that you deride as cruft, they donated their time and keystrokes to Wikipedia to create because they believed that it should be shared. Copyright violations and self-promotion are excluded, of course, but the fact is that it's highly unlikely that people who made money off of any of these fictional products, entities, races, literary elements, or what have you ever contributed to Wikipedia... None of it was for personal profit; all of it was for the love of the story. In this specific case, Zentradi/Zentraedi have appeared in Anime, novel adaptations, and role playing games seen and read and played by millions. Millions. Worldwide. Notability is meant to be a tool to remove someone's garage band, something made up in one day, stuff that were inside jokes that no one--or at most scores or hundreds of people--ever cared about. What you nominate are fictional elements experienced by tens of thousands to millions of people. You don't argue that they be merged or otherwise curated into better, more encyclopedic presentations, you condemn them to deletion and force others to spend effort to overcome the current state of the article to show the potential within. The thing is, you're usually correct--these are lame articles on moderately unimportant topics--but your approach to them is offensive to those who would like to see things streamlined, referenced, trimmed, improved, and presented better. What the Encyclopedia needs, when dealing with fictional elements, is not people kicking down lame sand-castles, but rather people taking time to improve what's already been donated. The seeds of good coverage lie within these articles, and the right thing to do isn't to delete them because they currently suck, creating holes rather than poor coverage, but rather to curate them. I'd LOVE to have the time to go through and do everything I just said, but I spend my time instead opposing you and people who see the encyclopedia the way you do, rather than a labor of love, imperfect and in need of serious effort. None of this is to say that I think you're malicious--I just think you're entirely wrong. Notability, to answer your original question, is there to express what should already be in the encyclopedia: information on things which external folks of some reputability have already decided to write about. But notability is the servant of the encyclopedia--and a good one, make no mistake--but not its master. Jclemens (talk) 06:36, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I rather think you've missed the point, which given that half of your post is a rant against the system and vowing to protect articles doesn't surprise me. Talking about peoples time and edits as if they are somehow protected when the site states clearly that all contributions are subject to editing. Let's also be clear, I'll be doing a massive cleanup of the article if it is kept, so the article will be edited towards verifiable information that serves the subject, which means removing half of it at least. Holes in coverage does not mean having articles for everything, but rather than the articles we have cover the topic adequately according to an articles specific needs. Rather than attacking people who nominate pages in good faith, you should spend that time and energy actually improving articles. That's what defines contributions to the encyclopaedia, not running through and waving keep at everything.SephyTheThird (talk) 09:17, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking for myself, I don't think there is anything wrong with your idea of notability. Indeed, on most similar articles I would be inclined to agree with you. I think this is a special case however. There is a vast amount of coverage on this franchise, and while ridiculous legal wrangling has limited the western releases of this series, the first series has had at least 4 releases in both forms and has received ongoing coverage for 30 years. The problem is one of logistics, going through that much coverage is going to take time and is not realistically possible during and AFD period. I appreciate the need for a massive cleanup of this article and it could ultimately serve as a redirect target for some of the individual characters, which would only helps it's case. Now I'm so confident if being able to find other sources given time that I would welcome another AFD in 6 months if the article doesn't gain further sourcing. I'm aware that Animerica has some possible sources but I can't access my full collection at this moment. As for the previous source I mentioned, while I haven't added it to the article yet, I believe it's a pretty good evidence of notability by itself.[3] Then there is Protoculture Addicts which although started as a fanzine, became an ongoing long running general magazine and while that introduces a separate debate on the suitability go it's fanzine content, it may suffice for supporting evidence with other sources.SephyTheThird (talk) 09:17, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Per the lack of referencing or substantial article content I have opted against a relist. KaisaL (talk) 00:30, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No evidence of real-world significance. Josh Milburn (talk) 21:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as this is Wikipedia, not Wikia, there's nothing for an actual encyclopedia-suited article. SwisterTwistertalk 06:49, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. As the first AFD only failed due to nobody participating, it is uncontroversial to go with the clear consensus here. KaisaL (talk) 14:31, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I missed commenting at the first AfD and my searches are now finding nothing better at all aside from a few several links at News and browsers....nothing actually convincing. Notifying 1st AfDer I9Q79oL78KiL0QTFHgyc. SwisterTwistertalk 20:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Per nom. Considering no one weighed in at the first AFD, I'll also post a link to this AFD at WP:FTN, just to get the word out as I'm not sure what projects to notify and the integral movement seems to come up at FTN quite a bit. Maybe redirect to Integral theory (Ken Wilber)? It seems like that's what has been happening with most of the non-notable integral movement pages recently. —PermStrump(talk) 23:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the references are skimpy and unconvincing - David Gerard (talk) 09:22, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Sources do not establish notability, and the article has a glaring promotional angle. Should simply redirect to the founder. Delta13C (talk) 13:53, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep as per no calls for deletion beyond the nominator and a unanimous consensus (albeit in various degrees of strength) to keep the article among the editors participating in this discussion. Going forward, it might be a good idea to keep a lookout for better sourcing for this subject, lest we go for another AfD. A non-admin closure. And Adoil Descended (talk) 13:33, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Originally deleted per G4 as not significantly different from the version previously deleted at AfD for failing WP:NBOXING and WP:GNG, but restored after discussion to send to AfD for community consensus. -- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:50, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Thanks, Patar knight, for restoring this. I suggest that since the previous AfD discussion in October 2015, Letele has achieved general notability. There was previously a substantial article in The New Zealand Herald (August 2015), and since then we have had an interview with Mens Mag NZ (undated, but published on their Facebook page on 17 April 2016, although they published a lot of stuff that day and I don't know whether that was about getting older content onto the FB site), Newshub reporting (6 March 2016), a 5:49 min interview with Paul Henry (6 May 2016), and a fairly long article in the The Sunday Star-Times (21 May 2016). That should be more than sufficient. Schwede66 20:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, WP:NBIO estabished and reliably with secondary sources. (Ajf773 (talk) 08:24, 22 June 2016 (UTC))[reply]
@JTtheOG, Bennyaha, PRehse, NealeFamily, Mdtemp, and Papaursa: I thought I'd ping everybody who has participated in the previous deletion discussion, as editors may not have this article on their watchlist. Schwede66 08:58, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The original AfD was correct and mainly hinged on not meeting WP:NBOX - a situation that remains. I do remember the article enough to see that there are more references and some expansion of non-boxing information but frankly neither the Rugby or having a Weight-loss regime contribute to his notability. So the question boils down to WP:GNG and that would reflect news coverage. I want to think about this a bit more and see what others say. I do think that the article is in a better position now then it was so the restore and bring it to second AfD makes sense. Benny (the original editor) writes well but with a local flavor. Not a reason to move in any direction - just saying.Peter Rehse (talk) 13:35, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep Most of the sources given are routine sports reporting. However, I do think there is just enough there to squeak by on meeting WP:GNG. Papaursa (talk) 22:56, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep The article could do with a trim, and some of the sources look a bit tabloidish, but I believe there is enough sustained coverage in national sports news to be able to fix all that. Ritchie333(talk)(cont) 12:23, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. Speedy delete as entirely promotional. The question of notability does not arise--I think it very doubtful, but the article would have to be deleted in any case. DGG ( talk ) 16:02, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The subject has received coverage for her social media activity, however, I have a feeling she still might fail WP:GNG and Wikipedia:Notability (sports). But, I'd like the community to examine it, too. Missvain (talk) 19:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep I found a couple pages of results in Google news alone. It's trashy stuff (Tmz.com, etc), but her name returns many results.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 21:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - I'm hesitant to say delete because she is covered extensively in reliable sources but it seems her only claim to fame is through social media. Meatsgains (talk)
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The result was Keep as withdrawn by nominator. (non-admin closure) §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:57, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's a secondary school. The intro mentions students through 10th grade, and further below there is stuff about baccalaureate certificate and testing 11th and 12th grade subjects. I usually don't vote on school AFDs, but we keep those, per wp:SCHOOLOUTCOMES(?), right? It is not necessary to get independent sources to support facts which are known. Or is it really questioned whether it is a secondary school? Or has something big changed about Wikipedia coverage of schools? --doncram 21:44, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. Per WP:SNOW, inherently non-encyclopedic content that will be irrelevant in 24 hours time. No need to keep this AfD open for purely bureaucratic reasons. Fenix down (talk) 09:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Qualification permutations at UEFA Euro 2016[edit]
Completely WP:OR and created after scenarios was not allowed in articles per consensus at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football. The article has no use and in two days all matches will be finished and there will be only tables like in main UEFA Euro 2016. Should be "speedy delete". Qed237(talk) 18:22, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Qed237(talk) 18:25, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Original research and content will be outdated within a matter of days. Secret Agent Julio (talk) 18:30, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Same reasoning, this article was created only because these contents were not allowed at UEFA Euro 2016 main page. The page creator may well put all that in his sandbox. The Replicator (talk) 18:41, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: as per nom. The article will become pointless in a couple of days. Kosack (talk) 19:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - pure OR, non-notable. GiantSnowman 20:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete will be outdated and irrelevant very soon. --SuperJew (talk) 08:06, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Doesn't seem to meet notability guidelines. He is popular, but writing one book and being a "professor" and rabbi of a synagogue doesn't seem to meet the bar for inclusion. Sir Joseph(talk) 18:04, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He is definitely notable, though you wouldn't know it from the sources on this page. I'll start working on it. Yoninah (talk) 19:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This is a rabbi who by his nature will be unlikely to appear in mainstream media. The article listed in Mishpacha magazine is major coverage, but the article isn't available online as the newspaper has almost no web presence in a community that doesn't use the Internet for casual purposes. The sources already in the article establish notability even with the systemic bias here. Alansohn (talk) 19:48, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The information culled from the "sources" is all WP:SYNTH. The article itself is full of WP:PEACOCK. If I could, I would blank it right now, but I'm willing to work on it. I own the Mishpacha issue and will start improving this article. Yoninah (talk) 19:59, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not disagreeing about the quality of the article, all of which can be better addressed by editing than by deletion. As you have a copy of the article, do you think that the Mishpacha piece is comprehensive coverage?
Actually, I have a different Mishpacha article, and am trying to obtain the 2005 piece from the publisher. In the meantime, I've found plenty of other reliable sources in Google searches. Still working on it... Yoninah (talk) 22:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Done Rewrite completed. Yoninah (talk) 10:06, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I can't believe that a Prezi presentation is given as a source, and used multiple times. There are a number of other sources that I do not think are independent: all of the links to the congregation; the Torah downloads site (which says "TorahDownloads.com is worked on by volunteers who share the Rotzon to be Marbitz Torah (spread Torah)." - thus a crowd-sourced, amateur site.) What remains may be enough for notability, but the sources need to be cleaned up by someone who knows the area. LaMona (talk) 23:49, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@LaMona: the WP:PRIMARY source aishkodesh.org was used only twice to verify personal information, which is allowed, to my understanding. However, I have removed it as a source, along with Torah Downloads and prezi.com. The remaining sources are all independent, reliable refs. Yoninah (talk) 14:53, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Withdrawing NominationI struck out my delete comment. I think at this point in time the article is sourced well enough to not be deleted. It's still a work in progress but should not be at AFD. Sir Joseph(talk) 14:55, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:45, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I had prodded this earlier but another editor removed it on the basis of the awards. The biggest one mentioned is only a nomination for the Governor General's award, not the award itself. Fails WP:ARTIST.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 21:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It's possible he's an accomplished illustrator, but as mentioned above the lack of sources makes this a larger notability/verifiability issue and lack of substantial acclaim for his work means WP:ARTIST isn't going to cut it either. ERK talk 04:39, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:45, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Unsourced, doesn't appear to meet WP:GNG, page creator appears to be band member promoting the project, first posting attempt (speedied) was a direct rip of their LinkedIn profile. At best looks like WP:TOO SOON. JamesG5 (talk) 17:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete due to no evidence of notability. RA0808talkcontribs 23:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. A band is not automatically entitled to keep an unsourced Wikipedia article just because they exist — reliable source coverage, verifying that they pass one or more criteria in WP:NMUSIC, must be present for an article to become earned. Bearcat (talk) 03:24, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails notability criteria for recordings; see WP:NALBUM. No significant coverage and this album has not made the charts. Steve Quinn (talk) 04:27, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect. Per above, this is a valid search term and as such should be redirected to Hypocrisy (band) § Discography. Nothing to indicate it meets WP:NALBUM and warrants its own page. ERK talk 04:43, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Utterly non-notable community newspaper. Entirely unreferenced, as the newspaper web site itself is down, and the only external reference does not mention the topic. This is the only independent coverage I found, it seems to be the classical 'mention in passing'. Pgallert (talk) 06:38, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: A WP:SPA article on a monthly newspaper produced by a charity. The charity site itself has very little on this project [4] and my searches are finding nothing on Highbeam and just a couple of passing mentions via Google ([5],[6]) which is surprising as a long-running project might be expected to have generated some evaluative coverage. In its absence, the coverage under Lüderitz#Media seems sufficient, although itself in need of referencing. AllyD (talk) 09:38, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete LexisNexis has 17 hits for "Buchter News" in quotation marks. Of these 8 are false positive results (mostly about Ryan Buchter). Of the remaining 9 hits, 3 are duplicates about gap year programs (trivial mention). Two are duplicate about the newspaper reporting spotting hyenas (trivial mention), the remaining four are basic teenage highlights in local newspapers (e.g. Uttoxeter Advertiser) and provide no content about the newspaper. In other words: In Lexis, there are 9 hits and none rise above hit and run mentions. That's not notable. AbstractIllusions (talk) 11:29, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:46, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable martial artists. Does not meet WP:MANOTE or through his book WP:NAUTHOR. This is clearly an autobiographical promo piece.Peter Rehse (talk) 16:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Per nom. Aust331 (talk) 16:12, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: per Wikipedia notability guidelines "multiple, reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article have written about that topic in some detail." Also per Basic_criteria. Altimbukti (talk) 22:09, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Neither the article nor my search turn up the significant independent coverage needed to meet WP:GNG. I also found nothing to show he meets the notability criteria for martial artists or authors. Papaursa (talk) 22:53, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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He's a video producer and New York theater actor but it's difficult to show what independent notability he has from his companies (Central Park Media, DuArt Film and 3Beep). AngusWOOF (bark • sniff) 16:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete I have not been able to find any independent, reliable sources that help establish notability for the subject. Mduvekot (talk) 16:46, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This is a tough one, lots of little bits and pieces in articles, but nothing really notable. Esw01407 (talk) 17:37, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. I would recommend anyone looking to add this marathon at a later date to consider looking at List of half marathon races. KaisaL (talk) 00:32, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Half marathon, which presently has no mention of the topic. This is a functional WP:ATD-M that will improve the latter article. Does not appear to have received ample coverage to qualify for a standalone article. North America1000 16:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Seems to be mentioned briefly in a few news stories and in one Lonely Planet guide, but otherwise no reliable sources to verify facts with. Probably fails WP:GNG. Steven Walling • talk 06:48, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there's still no other context to suggest merging and, at this point, any contents can simply be added there themselves, no need to stick a "merge" tag and hope someone will then take the time for 1 sentence. SwisterTwistertalk 06:50, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:47, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Being a state wrestling champion is not enough to show notability. I could find no record for him wrestling at Oklahoma. Junior championships are not competing at the highest level. If he'd been a collegiate champion there'd be a better case for notability, but I found nothing to show he ever even competed at the NCAA championships. Article seems promotional to me and a bunch of unsupported puffery thrown in about his business.Mdtemp (talk) 15:42, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. For the reasons well-stated by the nominator. I agree that winning a state championship (or even several) is not enough to establish notability, and news searches turn up only limited local coverage insufficient to make a case for WP:GNG notability. --Arxiloxos (talk) 16:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable businessman who excelled in wrestling in high school competition, but that does not make one notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:38, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Being a two time state high school wrestling champion is insufficient to show notability and the part of the article that describes his business appears to be promotional in nature. WP:GNG is not met. Papaursa (talk) 22:51, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:47, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Individual martial arts school with no significant independent coverage. Notability is not obtained from who the school's instructors' instructors were, nor generic martial arts claims. Nothing to show this meets WP:MANOTE or WP:GNG. Seems like the article's purpose was to promote the school and that's not what WP is for.Mdtemp (talk) 15:23, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As per nominator - this is a single school advert. Take out the general statements about taekwondo and their references and there is not much there.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:27, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, as not notable outside possibly a local area and then as a business; agree that it reads like a promotion piece. Kierzek (talk) 19:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Clearly fails WP:GNG. The secondary sources provided are not suitable. Steven Walling • talk 06:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. JohnCD (talk) 12:48, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable MMA fighter. Just had his first top tier fight and lost it. Assuming he'll get 3 top tier fights is WP:CRYSTALBALL. Lacks the significant coverage to meet WP:GNG. Article was created WP:TOOSOON, but no objections to having this article saved to user space until he becomes notable.Mdtemp (talk) 15:09, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Keep per no calls for deletion beyond the nominator, unanimous consensus from the editors in this discussion and considerable editing improvements to the article since the AfD was begun. A non-admin closure. And Adoil Descended (talk) 13:40, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Topic has a passing mention in one article and no indication of notability. Being a venue where boxing took place is not enough to show notability. Fails WP:GNG.Mdtemp (talk) 15:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The links above reveal quite a lot of potential sources. This looks to be a good source, as does this, this and this. So, it's a keep for me. Cordless Larry (talk) 16:53, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
It would be helpful if someone could track down a copy of this, too. Cordless Larry (talk) 17:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. This was a notable boxing locale in the early 1950s,[7] with its own network TV shows on Dumont and ABC. [8]Floyd Patterson fought there.[9] Here's an AP article about its closure in 1955. [10] --Arxiloxos (talk) 17:12, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment It certainly looks like a better case can be made than the throw-away stub suggests (sympathy for the nominator). I understand that articles can be allowed to grow but passing mentions that boxing matches occurred there and that the place shut (even if they are added to the article) won't do much. The fact that it had its own network if properly referenced I think would. Peter Rehse (talk) 17:24, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Improved version makes the case (although the show and the place could easily be a single article). Kudos to Arxiloxos.Peter Rehse (talk) 17:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. sufficient consensus DGG ( talk ) 16:03, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Like her brother (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kristopher Van Varenberg), there is no indication of notability. All of the movies she's been involved in have been her father's. There's a lack of significant coverage of her to show she meets WP:GNG or any other notability criteria.Mdtemp (talk) 14:57, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There is no significant independent coverage of her. Fails WP:GNG as stated by nom. -AuthorAuthor (talk) 15:20, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Non-notable martial arts style. The article has no sources and my search found no significant independent coverage. There are schools that teach it, but nothing to show it meets WP:GNG or WP:MANOTE. Existing doesn't make it notable. Mdtemp (talk) 14:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article is a bit disengious - it almost reads as if this art is an umbrella term for the five animal styles but when one reads carefully its a new style made up from the different styles. There is little in the unsourced article that speaks to notability.Peter Rehse (talk) 15:26, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Unsourced article with no indication of notability. My search found nothing to show it meets WP:GNG or WP:MANOTE. Papaursa (talk) 22:46, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Possibly a case of too soon and failed WP:MUSICBIO. The actor has done only 2 films so far and I fail to find any reliable independent sources to support notability. Thank You – GSS (talk) 14:02, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
comment more information is required. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yuuuu1000 (talk • contribs) 07:25, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
delete not notable yet. Jytdog (talk) 14:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This is a joke chess variant implemented on a single chess web server where half of the player's moves are automatically rejected at random with funny messages, but players joke about these funny messages being real rules. This article and its unreliable sources all appear to have been written in this same style ("fewer legal moves than traditional chess", "rules are too complex to summarize"). The edit history alleges that "Gregory Topov" is a fictional character. I can't find any secondary sources that have written about the game for what it is.
The article was AfD'd in 2006 and userfied, and later blanked. The userfied page was put up for MfD by User:Legacypac in February 2016 on the grounds that it was now a blanked hoax with possible copyvio text in the history, but when the MfD was closed as keep, Legacypac unblanked it and brought it back to primetime explaining"This survived MfD so should be moved back into mainspace"McGeddon (talk) 13:55, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete (restore to Userspace) -- This is a hoax. The article text suggests that it WAS a hoax, but is now real... okay, I can buy that an online server installed this "variant" as a joke, but... it's not notable. There's no reliable sources that discuss it. Failing WP:GNG, it does not belong in mainspace. Go ahead and put it back into userspace where it belongs. Fieari (talk) 05:17, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Local politician, member of the council of a suburb of Auckland (not the Auckland Council itself as the text might suggest). References are to primary sources, sometimes not even mentioning Sayers (like this one), to very minor local outlets, to non-independent sources, or to non-RS sources like Facebook and WP. There's one reference to the New Zealand Herald, but Sayers only gets an in-passing mention there. His most notable feat seems to be that he pissed off some people by pushing for limiting access of dogs to some local beaches and parks. Apart from the "controversies" section (inserted by an IP), article is also written in a rather promotional way (albeit not enough for G11). Does not meet WP:POLITICIAN, WP:NBIO, or WP:GNG. Randykitty (talk) 13:14, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Not notable beyond local politics and even that is not substantial. Further, the "article" reads like a promo piece. Kierzek (talk) 14:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This politician does meet the WP:POLITICIAN, WP:NBIO, and WP:GNG criteria to not warrant deletion in a variety of ways. The page is created using impartial and factual sources, which are accurately referenced. He is a major political figure who meets the primary notability criterion from many sources. Auckland Council is unique in that its wards are larger in area and population than electorates for central government. This politician holds dual office over an area much larger than an electorate. His regular news coverage is of public interest and the existence of this page achieves the aims of Wikipedia. It is not a WP:SOAPBOX. I have also noted that some contributors to the Auckland Council page have added material, including controversies associated with this politician. This businessman is also notable for his previous achievements and family background. Zorbing is as significant to New Zealand culture as bungee jumping. Greg has continued the legacy of his famous father, Alan Sayers, whose achievements are also noteworthy.--TheBlackandSilver (talk) 02:36, 22 June 2016 (UTC) — TheBlackandSilver (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Comment: TheBlackandSilver, can you do me a favor and please read WP:SOCK? Thanks! --Randykitty (talk) 07:46, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I see that "zorbing" is notable, yes. Since notability is not inherited, how does being chairman of the company making the things, or being a son of one of the founders, pass Wikipedia notability standards? Ravenswing 12:43, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
As noted in the nomination, he's not on the Auckland Council — he's on the "borough" council of one individual district within the region-wide government, but not on the region-wide body itself. Bearcat (talk) 16:06, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable member of a sub-urban council.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:27, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment This article reads as though it was written by someone with a COI. Appears to pass SIGCOV but most mentions are local news passing mentions as typically expected for a politician. Not convinced he passes WP:NPOLITICIAN. DerbyCountyinNZ(TalkContribs) 04:10, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Was chairman of Zorb which is pretty notable ish by NZ standards. But much more significantly is he has not just been elected to local council board, but also re-elected again, and got elected to a second position at the same time!!! Which was quite controversial and got a fair amount of attention for doing so at the time (even incredibly leading a proposed bill in parliament to abolish this!). MathmoTalk 09:40, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Ah, yes, the usual horde of sockpuppets voting Keep. I would wonder why these puppet masters go to so very much trouble to manufacture fake accounts and haul in varying IP addresses when they could devote their efforts instead to providing the slightest bit of evidence proving the notability of the subjects. Oh, wait. It's that they know they've got nothing, only meekly admitting defeat would be symbolically castrating, or some such. Anyway, obvious failure of WP:POLITICIAN, no evidence the subject meets the GNG. Ravenswing 12:40, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The edit history of all IPs are either to this AfD or Sayers' page. Pretty obvious what's going on here. Meatsgains (talk)
Ravenswing, you shouldn't overstate what is going on here in this AfD. The Keep voices are: myself (an editor on Wikipedia for a very long time), TheBlackandSilver (an account created last year, and has a small handful of edits on other pages as well. So I certainly wouldn't go so far as to call this a single purpose sockpuppet account), and two random IP addresses. Hardly what I'd call a "horde" of sockpuppets like you did, neither is there any evidence at all that there are puppet masters creating fake accounts like you claimed. As there appears to be zero fake accounts created for this AfD, not even one. MathmoTalk 16:44, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I don't consider a bunch of anon IP keeps, led by an account with all of ten non-Greg Sayers edits (and all of those over a year ago), to be overstating a thing. The only legit Keep vote is yours, and that's offset by five Delete advocates, including the nom. Obvious socking is obvious. Ravenswing 19:38, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I have Edited in references 11 and 12 about Mr Sayers as this string seems to missing his political sphere of influance. This politician does meet the WP:POLITICIAN protocols because the largest newspaper in New Zealand reports on him and he negotiates with the country's Prime Minister which also gets reported. See the tags ( currently 11 &12 ) to Penlink Bridge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.48.173 (talk) 08:13, 23 June 2016 (UTC) — 118.93.48.173 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
Comment: "Generally, a person who is "part of the enduring historical record" will have been written about, in depth, independently in multiple history books on that field, by historians. A politician who has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists." That is the standard a politician needs to pass with press coverage. Where are those sources, please? Ravenswing 12:37, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Being a local councillor in a suburb is not an automatic WP:NPOL freebie (and neither is getting reelected to a second term), being chairman of a company (even a notable/famous company) is not an automatic pass over our inclusion rules for businesspeople if the sourcing for it isn't particularly strong, and the sourcing here is far too reliant on primary sources and social media posts, with not even close to enough reliable source coverage to meet WP:GNG. None of this, neither the sourcing nor the substance, is enough — and articles which need a swarm of sockpuppets to come Defend Their Ramparts! always get an automatic side-eye. Bearcat (talk) 15:57, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I've had a look through the sources and this person fails WP:GNG and WP:SIGCOV. Schwede66 19:09, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Seems to be an advert for an MLM scam, referenced to its own publications Maproom (talk) 11:02, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
João - Mobidea
I've noticed that the page I've just created was marked for "deletion" even though it already has a number of credible sources pointing to it. This page is not an attempt to advertise for an MLM scam.
How should I proceed without risking to make my actions ultimately contribute to the removal of this page?
Best,
João
Joaofgaguiar (talk) 11:52, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - so many references but so little content. I cannot fathom whether this is a scam or not. I am not even sure whether it is written in English or in some sort of marketing business gabble, but whatever it is it has no references that show that it has any notability. The refs seems to be advertisements or directory listing but nothing at all substantial. Since there is so little assertion of notability, this might have been a speedy delete as a non notable company (I think?) VelellaVelella Talk 20:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Hello Vellela,
I see the point. I will try to emphasize the content. Thanks for your words! Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joaofgaguiar (talk • contribs) 21:57, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - References are insufficient. There are plenty of them in terms of numbers, but they are either not independent (paid adverts, press releases, etc) or they are not in depth articles in reliable sources. - MrOllie (talk) 16:50, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; clearly fails WP:CORP, and no extensive coverage in independent nor reliable sources is available. Best, FoCuScontribs; talk to me! 02:06, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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I see no reliable sources in the articles, and Google News shows no newspaper coverage, not even mere announcements of events. either press releases (though I would expect some announcements might be found in a more thorough search) ,. Having a few notable speakers is not evidence of notability DGG ( talk ) 01:01, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. This is an odd one -- the organization's web site tells us that it isn't actually an organization (it's more of an "inspiration"). I tried to get some notion of notability by looking at the external links (there are no references in the article), and found that those that weren't dead links didn't really discuss the organization(?) itself. Instead, they were just blogs from individuals who related their experience at the organization's camps. I just don't see any notability here. NewYorkActuary (talk) 23:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep It looks like there should be a general article about the movement as a whole. See here for example. Aoziwe (talk) 15:43, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete at best as I've been watching this and, at this time, my searches have found nothing better and there's nothing else minimally convincing from the article. SwisterTwistertalk 06:34, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Copied from the talk page
A check on this group tells me that it clearly doesn't meet WP:NOTABILITY guidelines, so I've tagged it for deletion. You can remove the tag if you want, but it that case it will just go to WP:AFD, in which case it will most likely be deleted anyway. That is, unless you can show that the group meets our notability guidelines. Herostratus 21:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I respectfully think we (NFNC) might qualify as notable. I have added some of the speakers who have presented - many who have internal wikipedia links. I have not yet removed the warning, hoping that soem of the NFNC folx will see the specific instructions in the warning and help copy edit and add content. Thanks for your patience and assistance in keeping wikipedia accurate and relavant. Paxuscalta 18:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I removed the deletion tag, because it's a time bomb - 5 days with the tag and the article is automatically deleted. And it's intended that the tag (the ProD tag) be removed if any one persons objects. The alternative would be to send the article to WP:AFD, where it can be be discussed by the community at large for seven days. I'm mulling whether to do that or not. Herostratus 07:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Dearest Herostratus: Thank you for pulling the time bomb tag, i am not sure best how to deal with this situation, so your assistance like this is appreciated. it also makes me feel a bit less frantic in dealing with this.
i may have also made the problem of your verification a bit worse by actually misnaming the group. I have listed it as "Network for New Culture" which is what i have always called it. The proper name is "Network for A New Culture". so verifying us with search engine searches on the group (especailly if the entire name is in quotes) MAY have missed articles about us.
Another member of NFNC has read the criteria for group inclusion in wikipedia and believes that it is based on two or more non-trivial articles about the group being published. He has done some searching and found the following: (i quote from his msg - having "wikiafied" the links for easy access):
“The Little Community That Could”
This is an article that was written by Geoph Kozeny, and was published in New ConneXion in May 2000
New ConneXion article
So now we have three articles that were published in print magazines or newspapers, and one of them was picked up by another magazine and reprinted.
"The Heart Holds the Power"
This is an article written by Teryani Riggs, which was published in Talking Leaves, a print magazine, in the Winter 1999 issue:
Heart Holds the Power article
That same article was published in New ConneXion in July 1999
reprint
New ConneXion is a print journal:
“For 14 years New ConneXion has been a leading voice for the new consciousness in the Pacific Northwest . Six times a year 35,000-40,000 free copies are picked up at over 600 health food stores, bookshops, restaurants and cafes, libraries, health centers, universities, shops and street boxes in Portland and throughout Oregon and Washington . The journal reaches over 80,000 readers in print, and our website is getting a million hits a month.”
Here are some links to articles on NFNC, drawn from a google search for: NFNC “New Culture”
Talk given at SC95, by Sten Linnander; published by
sexuality.org
(end of quoted msg)
If you think this article should be moved to the WP:AFD for discussion by the greater wikipedia community, we will certainly defer to your judgement - we are novices in this and dont want to run over any of the appropriate protocols or be seen as trying to push our way in.
We have already discussed that if the article is deleted, we would copy the final version and await several articles which have been written for submission to larger subscription periodicals and if they are printed, then we would resubmit with additional recognition.
Should i be adding these above articles to the "External Links" section ?
I moved the article to the correct name. No, I'm not going to send it to WP:AFD, although another editor might. But if you put your references you cited here into the body of the article, you should be OK. Just put them in the External links section. If you want to use footnotes, where individual statements link to a particular source(s), see Wikipedia:Footnotes. Cheers, Herostratus 14:14, 20 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for moving the article. i actually need to do this for the Nuclear information and resource service article i edited, which which got saved as lower case for most of the groups organization ame and should be capitaized - can you direct me to hos this is done ? i know ho to create a new article, but how do i redirect existing links to the old one ?
As you suggested, i added the articles in a new section under External Links. We are of course happy you dont feel the need to send us to WP:AFD. Your help is appreciated. Paxuscalta 13:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
At Network for a New Culture (NFNC) camps, currently located in Oregon, West Virginia, and Hawaii, adults come together to learn about and practice ways of living together different from the norms of mainstream culture, experimenting with new ways of relating to themselves, to their work, to others, and to the world. Workshops and other activities encourage participants to explore intimacy, freedom, and radical personal responsibility, with the goal of fostering the personal empowerment and emotional resilience that would allow a cooperative, nonviolent culture to emerge. The strong relationships that form at camp create the basis for a vibrant community all year long.
"I think I can! I think I can!"Most of us remember the kids' story about the little train trying to go up a huge, steep hill. The moral was that we can succeed at a seemingly impossible task if only (a) we believe that we can do it, and (b) we have the determination to follow through until the goal is reached. Well, that was the lesson I learned all over again at last August's "Summer Camp," held near Portland, Oregon and sponsored by the Network For a New Culture (NFNC).
NFNC was originally inspired by ZEGG, a 19-year-old German community based on scientific research, personal growth, healing, free sexuality, and the development of a new culture. The North American network has, however, developed a focus and a culture of its own, emphasizing a multi-pronged approach that includes personal growth, communication skills, open sexuality, and building community, although the culture they're evolving is not yet a "textbook" process.
The Washington Spark newspaper article mentioned by Paxuscalta (talk·contribs) in 2006 on the talk page (and in the collapsed text above) is a dead link.
Well, couple things. First, DGG is remarkably inclusionistic, and so it he thinks the article should go, that's something that I respect. Second, when we're looking for coverage, we're looking for notable organs... articles in (let's say) the LA Times or Der Spiegel etc. would be nice, but we can't always get that, and so settle for the the Harrisburg Patriot-News or Fresno Bee or so forth. But New Culture, what is that? What is the Journal of Conscious Living and the Washington Spark? Sure we consider some specialist organs to be notable, but none of these have Wikipedia articles, and that makes me wonder how notable the are. The WP:N guideline is "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" to which I always add "and do not have a readership of, like, just 3 people and squirrel". Anybody can create an on-line magazine, you don't even need a mimeo machine anymore. I'm not feeling positive about those sources as being sufficiently notable to confer notability on the subject. Herostratus (talk) 06:01, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Just not notable enough in the end. Passing interest mentions; not significant coverage in notable "organs" as noted above. Kierzek (talk) 14:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Hello, Cunard. Thanks for the cites. Only three this time? :) The first cite (the article about the camps) is one of the ones I referred to in my earlier posting re: blogs about an individual's experience at a camp. But the second one was new. However, it was written by a member of the Network (Geoph Kozeny, now deceased), as can be seen here. So, it can't be used to establish notability. NewYorkActuary (talk) 15:40, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, only three citations this time because I was unable to find more coverage about the subject. :) Based on your observation that the first article is not an independent source and and Herostratus' observation that the other two sources are very small publications, I am switching to delete. Cunard (talk) 05:23, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Switching from "keep" to "delete" per Herostratus' and NewYorkActuary's comments. Cunard (talk) 05:23, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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No evidence of any notability. Reads more like an advertisement. All the refs are his own published works. Nothing here suggests any notability. VelellaVelella Talk 09:48, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Reads like a CV and don't see any lasting substantial notability. Kierzek (talk) 14:10, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The article is written in a way which looks promotional. It appears to be a direct translation from an Italian wikipedia article where it is also the subject of an Articles for Deletion discussion. Although this person has several publications to his name, I can't see that he passes WP:ACADEMIC or WP:GNG. I had a look for independent coverage in reliable English-language sources but couldn't find anything. Notability hasn't been established. Drchriswilliams (talk) 11:34, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; appears to be a direct translation of its Italian counterpart, which is itself being discussed for deletion. Fails WP:PROF quite clearly (a hadful of citations, no important posts, etc.), not to mention WP:GNG. Best, FoCuScontribs; talk to me! 02:18, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:CRYSTAL. Created by a user who has a history of adding unsourced articles. The 2013 and 2017 editions that were scheduled have both been cancelled with no indication that the tournament will continue/ever happen at all. LugnutsDick Laurent is dead 08:31, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. It has not even happened and there is no indication of why this is notable at this time. I would not even rate it a stub in its current form. Kierzek (talk) 14:14, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No evidence that tournament exists or will exist. Page layout is a mess also. (Ajf773 (talk) 23:00, 24 June 2016 (UTC))[reply]
Delete. I am glad that articles for championships between 2023 to 2050 were not created. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 08:35, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Draftify. I would say userfy but the creator has been blocked. Draft could be useful after the film releases; no need to waste the info. Softlavender (talk) 08:35, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. It's not just some blocked editor's work. At the COI proceeding, Tokyogirl79 reports:
*OK, I've worked on the article. It looks like this releases in August so I'd recommend just sitting on this for now. The coverage is light but slightly enough to where it could pass WP:NFF if we wanted to be especially charitable. If it releases in August and gains no coverage then I'd suggest maybe nominating it or at the very least changing it to refer to the short film rather than the feature film.
The article should be a combo article about both the short film and the feature. I will revise it slightly in the lede. And the feature's principal filming is done, and the article is factual and sourced. --doncram 03:27, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per Doncram's improvements. Softlavender (talk) 05:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep the article has undergone significant improvements and referencing since its nomination. It now clearly satisfies WP:NFILM and WP:GNG. Dan arndt (talk) 07:06, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Previous AfD closed as no consensus, but only on the borderline. None of the sources cited in the article provide significant coverage of this former school building. The article contains original research that attempts to make a link between the notability of the building and that of the area it is located in. Though sources were promised, they have not been forthcoming. Cordless Larry (talk) 08:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. IMO this 2nd AFD should not have been started without someone first obtaining the Canadian historic sites organization's documentation about the historic district, which probably covers this building quite sufficiently to satisfy anyone. The deletion nominator and I participated in the previous AFD as well as a simultaneous NOR noticeboard Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard/Archive_36#Niagara_Public_School. As covered in the first AFD:
It is a historic building that is old enough and interesting enough to have substantial coverage, including it being subject of at least one published painting.
It is included in a historic district, and it is reasonable to believe it is the equivalent of a contributing building in a U.S. historic district listed on the National Register of Historic Places. We have numerous articles about buildings that are contributing properties in U.S. historic districts.
Characteristics of the building are consistent with the stated themes of the historic district, including that (from memory)
the area of the historic district extends in from the Niagara waterfront to include the block that the school is on, and not facing buildings across the street, as if the school is targeted
the historic district focuses on two-story five-bay masonry structures dating from a certain period (1815-1859), like the school, built in 1859. The stated period itself seems to me like it may have been extended to include the school, which was built later than other buildings closer to the waterfront.
the historic district focuses on properties that are well-preserved, and that exemplify the activity of historic preservation itself
It is reasonable to expect that specifics on this building are included in the Canadian historic sites organization's nomination documentation about the historic district. During the 1st AFD I made a request (perhaps both by telephone message and by email?) for copy of the documentation, but I did not in fact receive any reply, and I do not know if the Canadian historic sites organization offers the service of providing copies. Libraries in Niagara are another likely source for copy of that material.
We "Keep" articles where we believe there exist substantial reliable sources covering the topic, whether or not we have those sources in hand. If the document had been obtained and it turned out the school was not regarded as significant, then a second AFD might be justified, but that has not happened. I am willing to try harder to obtain a copy of the documentation myself, but that could have been suggested at the Talk page of the article. wp:AFDISNOTFORCLEANUP.
I did ask on the article talk page, Doncram. There was no reply. You apparently requested these documents months ago, but they haven't been forthcoming. The article is more than four years old. At some point, we needed to reassess whether the sources establishing notability exist. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The deletion nomination exemplifies WP:IMPATIENT, one of the defined reasons to avoid during deletion discussions. In several back-and-forths I responded fully at Talk:Niagara Public School about seeking the documents. I expect I can get the documentation sometime in person in Niagara-on-the-Lake or in Gatineau, when I will be in one of those areas, but that is not required. We know well enough that the school is notable and offline sources exist: that is enough to end this AFD by "Speedy Keep", frankly. I know well enough, even if you don't, that the documentation covers the school. The discussion at Talk is getting close to simply whining that the obviously helpful documentation has not been obtained and used. Well you could have gotten it yourself, and wp:THEREISNODEADLINE. I will respond less to further comments. --doncram 21:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You responded only after I started this AfD! If four years is being impatient, then how long should I wait for sources? Cordless Larry (talk) 21:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Cordless Larry and Doncram: I see no need to "get the documents". The school is included in the historic district as the reference says. The ref is published by the "Canada's Historic Places" web site, which is jointly published by the Federal, Provincial and Territorial governments of Canada. The top two levels of government in Canada agree that this is an historic building, and I think we should too.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 03:16, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. The school is within the historic district, so it gets inherited notability. I know you ar eprobably going to say no to that, but think of Angkor Wat, for example. It's a World heritage site/district. Everything inside it is notable.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 07:11, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
OK, thanks, HappyValleyEditor. Yes, I am guided by WP:NOTINHERITED here and think that the building itself needs to be notable - otherwise being part of a district could be an argument for having articles on buildings for which zero sources exist. I respect your opinion, though, and at least there is some coverage in this case. Cordless Larry (talk) 07:15, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I added two decent book sources that mention it in terms of its historic value. I also found another ref for Janet Carnochan, the first principal and added that. (Note that in doing so, I spotted and removed some copyvio that was added in March as it perfectly matches the "come, Bright Improvement" ref). All in all, there are decent sources for something this old, which together establish notability. There does seem to be a bit of WP:OR and possible COPYVIO, but that's not a reason to delete an interesting and notable article, but rather a reason for cleanup. I like the painting as a reference-- it's a clear and notable historical reference to the school in visual form.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 02:55, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep - The article now has adequate sources. I am not qualified to judge the significance of the building. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:21, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - appears to be properly sourced. VMS Mosaic (talk) 01:55, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep The Brancliff Inn, which the school was converted to, has gotten a smattering of coverage in tour books such as this one: [11]. It also placed 6th in Trivago’s Top 10 Canadian Hotels list in 2016, which got coverage by a few sources:[12][13]. This is far from the best-sourced article I've ever seen, but I think the various sources that have been found are enough to establish notability. Spirit of Eagle (talk) 06:56, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedied once A7. No indication of notability per WP:BIO, with no significant coverage online from WP:Reliable sources. All of the references cited are about things he works with, or about his family, rather than him, and WP:Notability is not inherited. OnionRing (talk) 07:32, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Sandstein 05:52, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Appears to be unsourced WP:OR, searching for sources produce a few articles with this in title but they are covering different topics. JamesG5 (talk) 07:12, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Completely unsourced. Appears to be made up. Steven Walling • talk 06:52, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. The company has also been deleted in an earlier AFD close. KaisaL (talk) 00:35, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable businessman per WP:BIO. Most of the article is a promo for his company, which was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/ReNewIT for notability and blatant promo, and nearly all of the references are about the company, rather than him, with some not mentioning him at all. No significant coverage online from WP:RS. OnionRing (talk) 07:06, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete yet another article on a non-notable businessman.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. Neither of the two reasons given for keeping relate to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. They are (1) the bare statement "notability has been established" without explanation or evidence; see Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#Assertion of notability, and (2) "Just because he hasn't been notable since 2011 doesn't mean he never existed"; see Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions#Existence. The arguments for "delete" are not the strongest I have ever seen, but they are based on issues related to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, namely notability and promotion. (Note: Several of the images are certainly copyright infringements, and it is probably true that all of them are, as LM2000 says, but that is not a reason to delete the article: it is just a reason to remove the images from the article.) The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 12:23, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
No real Notability since 2011, can find no further info about him online since 2011. I can find no way to improve this article.It has also already been tagged per WP:BIO due to notability issues already.Chris "WarMachineWildThing" (talk) 06:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Article currently reads like an advert and needs work, but notability has been established albeit there is little to nothing since 2011. Aust331 (talk) 09:41, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Just because he hasn't been notable since 2011 doesn't mean he never existed, if that was the case then we could delete Sim Snuka's article as well — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:6000:5644:600:8D68:233B:4F1E:7234 (talk) 05:38, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comparing Novak to Snuka is like comparing apples to oranges. Sim has Notability due to being a Second gen wrestler alone,plus he actually made it to the main roster. No comparison. ALOT of guys existed but ALOT of them do not qualify for WP:BIO notability, that is what matters not if he existed or not Chris "WarMachineWildThing" (talk) 06:17, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Article has been deleted before under a different name, see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jacob Novak. He hasn't done anything since the previous AfD which would change WP:GNG concerns. The article reads like an advert and all of the pics are copy-vios.LM2000 (talk) 06:22, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - the epitome of someone with no success on WWE television, eliminated first in both season 4 and season 5. Didn't make it to WWE main roster (raw/smackdown). Also echoing LM2000's concerns starship.paint ~KO 06:54, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per above. Prefall 08:21, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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fails WP:GNG. Australia has never had a resident ambassador to Norway. Article contains mostly primary sources . The few third party sources like Canberra Times merely contain routine coverage which confirm the role . Arguments like WP:MUSTBESOURCES, WP:ADHOM do not add to notability LibStar (talk) 15:25, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment So the office was first held concurrently by the ambassadors to Sweden and now the ones to Denmark? Would this merit a merge of some sort? The two separate articles to merge to makes it a lot harder. It seems to be a Wikipedia standard to have an ambassador list of every little country to every little other country: List of ambassadors of Sweden to Ukraine. However I do prefer it this way, as the information is hard to find otherwise. The Wikipedia templates make research of ambassadors a lot easier. They're also simple, clean lists: quickly glanced through. --Mr. Magoo (talk) 21:32, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment; I don't see why deletion would be appropriate or even advisable. Lists are meant to make research easier. Any technicalities can be explained in a short paragraph at the top. As Magoo aptly mentioned, these lists are widespread, and they are so for a reason. I don't see a merge target for this one in particular. Regards, FoCuScontribs; talk to me! 02:09, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
maybe due to the fact that Australia has never had a resident ambassador, if we start making lists of non resident ambassadors in wikipedia we'd have tens of thousands of lists of very quesitonable value. LibStar (talk) 03:41, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was Delete. This does not preclude the creation of a redirect at this title. Hut 8.5 21:20, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Source searches have not provided any significant coverage for this film; does not meet WP:GNG or WP:NFOE. North America1000 05:58, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Dawn Breakers International Film Festival's section for 2009. I, too, can not easily find anything that attests to notability, and as another Bahai outlet, I doubt the film festival can be considered sufficiently independent of the film. Jclemens (talk) 06:15, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and then Redirect as there's still nothing actually convincing this can ever be improved and salvaged as its own article. Linking as a likely search is enough. SwisterTwistertalk 06:38, 12 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: appears to be a promotional article on a non-notable subject. K.e.coffman (talk) 06:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Per nom. Aust331 (talk) 09:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Three re-listings have not gauged a clear consensus. I would advise that the article could be improved with clearer references to several of the mentioned major titles but debate has not resulted in it being reasonable for me to delete or relist. KaisaL (talk) 00:38, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The subject does not meet WP:BASIC. With two paragraphs of content about the subject, this New York Times columnist biography could potentially be considered as significant coverage, but additional source searches are only providing short passing mentions and various articles the subject has authored. North America1000 07:13, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. I'm not 100% convinced, but I'm leaning toward keep. Chervokas sure does have a whole lot of trivial mentions all over the place, and there's some in-depth stuff, too. I kind of laughed off @NY as promotional nonsense when I saw it mentioned in the article, but he got a lot of coverage for it. In 1995, New York named him to their "New York Cyber Sixty". This paragraph in Entrepreneurship in Emerging Regions Around the World is mostly about @NY, but it mentions Chervokas and cites several other works that seem to be more in-depth. No-Collar, a book published by Temple University Press, calls him "one of the most highly regarded industry journalists", though it's admittedly a trivial mention. This article in New York also goes a bit into @NY and his involvement. I think there's probably something here, but I can't decide whether what I'm seeing is Chervokas' notability or @NY's notability. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:55, 5 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Not yet notable. The work is still minor, asare the references A NYT bio of oneof their own contributors is not independent evidence for notability DGG ( talk ) 06:23, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This topic does not have significant coverage in reliable sources per WP:N. This article has been on Wikipedia since 2006 and has no references at all. Steve Quinn (talk) 22:53, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
DeleteKeep - This is an issue of systemic bias. The sources are evidentially in Iranian. I found one mention of them in this article: [14], so clearly they exist, and this article even mentions that they get coverage in Iranian newspapers, but they apparently don't get English language coverage. This said, I do note that Aryan League frequently pops up news articles about the Aryan League of America, which probably deserves an article of its own, and a hatnote or disambiguation page. The "Aryan League" was apparently also mentioned in at least one 1922 newspaper, so it may have more historical usage in relation to WWII and Nazi Germany as well. Fieari (talk) 03:48, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Steve Quinn's arguments below have changed my mind. We can't have this article because we have no reliable information about the subject. Until such time as we can find reliable information, the page should be deleted. As I said before though, I certainly wouldn't object to an article with this name discussing the term from a 1922 german context, or as a redirect to an article on the American Aryan League. Fieari (talk) 07:20, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Screw "systemic bias." WP:V is unambiguous -- if no qualifying sources can be found for a subject, then an article on that subject cannot be sustained. We cannot just allege or speculate that sources discussing the subject in "significant detail" exist: they must be proven to exist, and presented for our review. If you can't produce anything more than fleeting mentions, then you can't legitimately advocate keeping the article. Ravenswing 12:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I provided a reference that referenced the existence of Iranian language sources. I can't read Iranian. I can't search in Iranian. But someone who can, and who is a reliable source, has done so for us. It's only one fleeting reference, but it's a reference that establishes the existence of other references. May I also ask that you calm down a little bit? No need for hostility. Fieari (talk) 07:35, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm quite calm, thank you. I would suggest that if you're interested in a lack of hostility, suggesting that "systemic bias" is the source of this AfD is a poor method of setting that tone. Certainly I would never advocate keeping an article without unambiguous proof -- not just supposition or speculation -- that qualifying sources exist. Ravenswing 11:37, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I take "screw XXX" to be far more hostile than simply referencing WP:Systemic bias, an essay that seems to have a lot of support from fellow wikipedians. ("I don't agree with that essay" or "I think WP policy holds more weight" would have been less hostile, IMO). Regardless, I think a larger amount of leeway should be allowable when sources are a combination of being likely to be in a language other than English, and less likely to be online. Fieari (talk) 23:41, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
And if you can win people over on the WP:V talk page to the premise that the core policy is suspended for subjects where sources are likely to be in foreign languages, fair enough. Ravenswing 00:19, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment The link that is meant to be a source links to an article entitled "Blood Libel" and disparages the views of a Palestinian leader making a speech or speeches before representatives of the European Union [15]. There is no mention of an Aryan League or Iranian language sources that discuss the Aryan League. Truthfully I don't think such an organization exits in Iran. I don't see how it could since Iran is very much a Muslim country and the Aryan League would be some sort of old time fascist organization that relies on beliefs that would seem to clash with the Muslim faith. To me it seems like an oxymoron. Without reliable sources I cannot see this as otherwise. Steve Quinn (talk) 05:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC).[reply]
This may have been the intended source: "Explaining Iran’s approach toward the Middle East "; (The Jerusalem Post. 2011-10-25). There is only passing mention of the Aryan League and it is still not clear if this group actually still exists. It may have faded away with the downfall of the Shah. In any case, only passing mention does not qualify as significant coverage. Also, I didn't see any Iranian language sources mentioned in this article. Steve Quinn (talk) 05:27, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, right now, I don't even know if this was, or is, a fascist group. Only this Wikipedia article says this, and I haven't found any sources to back that up either, never mind its existence. In Hindu scriptures, "Aryan" (Anglo-translation) refers to a heroic-leadership type person in ancient times. So this has a far different meaning and connotation in our modern times dating back to the rise of Hitler. So if there was an Aryan League in Iran at one time, the meaning could be leadership-heroic types before the rise of Hitler. So really, there is no way to nail down what this Wikipedia article is really about. It seems to be someone's wonderful (or not so wonderful) idea. In other words, original research WP:NOR. Steve Quinn (talk) 05:44, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete non-notable camera operator, which is almost a redundancy. Generally you have to be the creative force behind a work, at least the cinematographer is not the director, to be notable on the crew side.03:29, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
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Appears to fail WP:NARTIST. Zero sources on page. No establishment of notability. Original creator basically copy-pasted info from the official website (compare [16] to [17]). Suspect WP:SOAP intent for creation, but article was never substantially improved. If subject is notable (which does not seem to be) then WP:NUKEANDPAVE and let it be recreated. EvergreenFir(talk) Please ((re)) 23:30, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as I'm simply not finding anything else actually better aside from a few unsurprising links, the article also suggests nothing else better for the applicable notability with there simply being nothing outstanding. SwisterTwistertalk 23:00, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy Keep. This nomination could have used a little WP:BEFORE, as I have found many good sources and added several to the article. I'll continue to add more. In the meantime, do a Google image search for "Chris Gilmour artist", and the notability will be obvious. Of course references are what we work with here, and more are coming.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 06:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Follow-up: I've added 13 28 inline refs, removed the uncited Exhibitions section and the uncited artist statement. I also found and added info on the two collections he is in, one of which is the Museum of Arts and Design in New York. It's clearly an easy keep-- the fact he is in two collections meets WP:ARTIST, and the 28 refs establish notability via wide reporting on his work by independent reputable sources. I think the article creator shot themselves in the foot by not using any inline refs.HappyValleyEditor (talk) 07:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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No indication about person's notability. Fails WP:DIRECTOR and WP:NACTOR. Also looks more like a promotional article than a biography. Sabbatino (talk) 14:31, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete at best as my searches have found nothing easily confirmed to be this man and there's nothing else to help insinuate there's the needed substance for the notability. Delete as there's simply nothing else convincing including the needed coverage to suggest at least basically better. SwisterTwistertalk 23:12, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Please delete. There must be 5 million Chakrabortys in India and good number of them involved in the film industry. With just a last name and no credible sources, this article is bound to fail. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 11:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as I noticed this earlier, there's loads of news but that's expected for these subjects and my searches have found nothing better, it's newly started and thus is not expected to have anything else particularly better. SwisterTwistertalk 00:52, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. I did find a few articles that talk about the company (see this and this from The Economic Times), but I'm not seeing the "direct" and "detail[ed]" coverage that is required by WP:GNG. As the nomination indicates, most coverage in secondary sources consists of press releases or notifications that the company has raised capital. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 14:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Borderline WP:A7 if not for the age of this article. There's really no claim of significance here. The closest thing is a claim of inherited notability because her son was a poet, which is where the single source comes in (discusses her as the mother of her son, not an independently noteworthy person). I could find no other sources. Doesn't pass WP:GNG or WP:NBIO. ~ RobTalk 05:11, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy Delete: I see no reason why the age of the article should stop an A7. There's simply nothing here. The article asserts her name, her dates of birth and death, the names of her children, the names of her parents and spouse, that she received an "Islamic" education (how many ethnic Arabs didn't, in that day and age?), and where she was buried. That's routine biographical information shared by hundreds of millions of people, and in this case it's entirely uncited. All this article asserts is that the subject existed. Great, so stipulated. So what? Ravenswing 12:59, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Was also deleted at ur-wiki, although I cannot find out why. - HyperGaruda (talk) 14:59, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: No reliable sources, nothing which passes WP:MUSIC, no evidence of meeting the GNG. Ravenswing 13:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete There are literally no third party sources to even verify the facts in the article. The subject is the founder of a non-notable company. The few sources available [18], [19] are from a questionable source and even then, doesn't cover the subject in detail. This fails WP:GNG by a wide margin. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:15, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Closed as Speedy Delete both under criterion G11 Both are clearly promotional. The author has only self-published books to his credit, which doesn't even give an indication of significance, and therefore could have been deleted as A7 also. The book is in only 33 libraries, and has no possible chance of notability . The author' has only 2 othe books in worldcat, with holding of 6 and 2 respectively. DGG ( talk ) 16:34, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I came across this via his book Deadrise, which was recently created and which I'm also going to include in this AfD.
I searched for coverage, but ultimately I can't find anything to show that Whitehill would pass notability guidelines for authors, actors, or GNG in general. The only coverage I've found are two articles that read suspiciously like they were based on press releases (or are just reprints of press releases). There is also a Kirkus Review, but it was reviewed via Kirkus Indie, its pay review outlet, so it can't be seen as a RS in any form. Ultimately I don't see where Whitehill passes notability guidelines. I also don't see where his work in other avenues (screenwriting) has received any coverage to where they'd be seen as notable. A prior version of the article claims that he's won awards, but I don't see where these awards are major since they don't really come up in a search.
Of note is that I did remove two sources, a blog post and an Amazon link, neither of which would be seen as RS in any form or fashion. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 09:48, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Why? I came to this article because I was looking for information on a book series, and I found the information I was looking for. Clearly this article has been useful to someone. What's the point of deleting it, other than to satisfy some deletionist philosophy? I say keep the article. SimpsonDG (talk) 02:45, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This isn't a deletionist thing and if you can provide sources that show he's gained enough coverage to show that he's passed WP:NAUTHOR then I'm willing to withdraw. However saying that you and others may have found this useful isn't an argument for inclusion. To be fair, I'm going to ping DGG. If anyone can help find coverage or justify inclusion, he can. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 03:49, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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As I said in the PROD, which seems to have disappeared, this is not a notable tour per WP:NTOUR. There are no discussions of the tour as a whole (or as a tour), only a few links to things that are not secondary sources--besides a mention or two of things that happened at shows. As a tour, this is simply not notable. Drmies (talk) 22:19, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This was the first tour with a returning John Frusciante after six years, which is pretty notable considering he is their most recognizable guitarist and their first tour at the time in two years. The 1998 tour is also recognized as an official tour on the band's website. http://redhotchilipeppers.com/tour/past/1998 and it is also mentioned as an important event on the band's official timeline on their website http://redhotchilipeppers.com/timeline It featured the debut of new songs from Californication, songs the band had never played before and songs they would never play again. Removing the article for it would also create a gap in between the band's 96/97 One Hot Minute tour with Navarro and the Californication tour, which begain an entire year after the 1998 tour. If it needed to be merged (the article has been around for four years now so unsure why all of a sudden it needs to be removed) maybe create a section in the Californication tour article even though it had no connection to that tour as the album wasnt even close to completion and the 1998 tour was it's own tour, not in support of the future album. I dont however see a reason to delete it as this tour was important in the band's history with the return of Frusciante. Jason1978 (talk) 22:35, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - This contains a whole heap of WP:OR. Frusciante rejoining is adequately covered on the band's main page. Are there any reviews of the tour (Rolling Stone, Spin, LA Times). The Tibetan Freedom concert is covered adequately. I'm sorry, but it just does not seem to be needed nor have the sources to warrant inclusion. Karst (talk) 11:53, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete and my searches have found only a few links, nothing at all actually convincing. SwisterTwistertalk 06:19, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete- I can't find anything substantial beyond press releases and associated fluff. ReykYO! 11:26, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. This is a difficult closure but I am convinced that there is a consensus I can act upon here. This is tempered by a previous deletion under Edward Forchion and the clear WP:BLP issues. I have opted against salting at this time. KaisaL (talk) 14:40, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Problematic WP:BLP, tagged for neutrality issues since 35 minutes after its creation back in January, about a person who was previously deleted at the title Edward Forchion. While this version does bring more reliable sourcing to bear than the last one did, it still leaves a lot of details (some of which are extremely contentious and sensitive) entirely unsourced, and still depends too strongly on lawsuits as a priori evidence of notability (which they aren't). Problematic articles about people have to be sourced extremely carefully because of the reputational harm that a Wikipedia article can cause, but the amount of contentious detail here that remains entirely unsourced is quite simply unacceptable -- especially for a person who doesn't cleanly pass any subject-specific inclusion standard. Even if I can't speedy this G4 due to the differences from the last version, it's still a delete. Bearcat (talk) 06:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Trivial significance at best. DGG ( talk ) 15:35, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as I'm commenting here to ensure a clearer consensus, examining this still found troubles with both convincing information and sources. Delete is best until a better article is available. SwisterTwistertalk 05:51, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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This article is written like a brochure, a possible COI article. This article can be represented in Independent University, Bangladesh article. has no independent notability. Mar11 (talk) 05:22, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 05:51, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is TNT at the very least. Looks like original research. Almost no citations, almost everything refers to Peter Singer. Reads like an essay, not encyclopedic. Lrieber (talk) 03:34, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Peter Singer#Applied ethics, where the concept is mentioned. This principle is mentioned in the Encyclopedia Brittanica article on speciesism and is identified with Singer. It is conceivable that this could be a notable topic and it is a plausible search term. This nearly unsourced essay, however, does a worse job of summarizing the principle and placing it in context than does the section Peter Singer#Applied ethics. A redirect there would better serve our readers. --Mark viking (talk) 19:30, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep A key concept in contemporary academic ethics, not idiosyncratic to Peter Singer. --Davidcpearce (talk) 14:45, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The article currently only cites Peter Singer. It would need significant cleanup if it's to be kept.Lrieber (talk) 17:33, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect perhaps, as this is acceptable, and as Books noticeably found a few several links but there's nothing currently to suggest the considerable convincing of having its own article at this time. SwisterTwistertalk 23:28, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a reference to Guidi's "The Principle of Equal Consideration of Interests from Bentham to Pigou"; but there is a huge scholarly literature if anyone wants to add further.--Davidcpearce (talk) 23:53, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. A topic of considerable significance in contemporary ethics; there is a lot of literature out there. Singer's words on the topic are well-known, and have provoked a lot of discussion, but the idea now has a life of its own beyond him. (Also: Is Davidcpearce perhaps the David Pearce known for his abolitionist project? Small world.) Josh Milburn (talk) 18:35, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Strong keep as an important position in ethics, and one of the original and most popular positions in contemporary animal ethics. Needs a major rewrite (to satisfy WP:BALANCE and WP:OR) according to sources which overwhelmingly show WP:GNG:
Introduction to Animal Rights Francione is overall over-represented in WP's spotty animal ethics coverage IMHO, but here he gives a discussion of this principle in and out of animal ethics
I could go on, but this should be more than enough for the purposes of an AFD. FourViolas (talk) 00:26, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete if needed but certainly consider Redirectingin to the Chi-Lites as my searches have found some links but nothing at all to suggest there's substantially better. SwisterTwistertalk 22:48, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. In closing I am unconvinced that any actionable arguments for keeping this subject have been provided - the links are to minor local newspapers and sources without significant coverage of the subject. KaisaL (talk) 14:51, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Notability established by [20] and [21]. ~Kvng (talk) 17:13, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
mn::neither article is about the organization, but about someone whose adventure they are sponsoring. DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Coverage does not need to be about the topic, just needs to include significant coverage of the topic which, in my estimation they do. ~Kvng (talk) 04:22, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Of the sources used as references in the article, one is a generic Met Office page on "What do we mean by climate?" which does not mention the subject of the article and the other is a site of the charity's founder, so WP:PRIMARY. The two additional sources identified above are brief mentions in press coverage of a young sailor who serves as Youth Ambassador for the organisation. These are more substantial, but as per User:DGG above, I would not regard them as providing WP:ORGDEPTH evidence. Nor are my own searches identifying anything which servesas substantial coverage of the organisation. AllyD (talk) 10:26, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it seems to have got more coverage in the last few days.[22]Rathfelder (talk) 22:32, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
that is just localcoverage from the particpant's immediate area,and its basically a reprint of the other press releases . DGG ( talk ) 14:29, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as the Keep votes are still not convincing how the article can actually insinuate the needed notability and my own searches have found nothing better. SwisterTwistertalk 01:11, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Not clear how he passes the WP:GNG References are all dead links, Google shows this article, Facebook mentions, IMDB and few blogs. Theroadislong (talk) 11:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Dead links. This is such a generic name that it is impossible to ascertain the notability unless specific references are provided; I could find no references. Fails GNG. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 11:41, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Editorial concerns like neutrality can be discussed on the talk page. (non-admin closure)ansh666 02:29, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural nomination of a declined PROD, I felt it should be discussed prior to deletion. An IP PRODDed the article with a rationale of "This is a promotional article perpetuating dangerous health claims. It consists entirely of content written by an editor blocked for undisclosed paid editing." -- GBfan 11:11, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - I may be fooled by the marketeers but I see an article that is supported by sources that meet our notability guidelines. If content is too promotional in nature then it needs editing, not deletion. Also, I personally don't care who wrote the article under what incentive; I only review the article itself. DeVerm (talk) 18:23, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This needs cleaning to ensure that it's neutral - apparently the article creator was blocked as an undisclosed paid editor and I'm slightly concerned by the repeated insistence that no actual cases of issues have been reported. It seems to be sourced by this article and this one, but neither explicitly state these claims. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 06:30, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure - I think the notability threshold is met (even if it is met via aggressive advertisement and lazy journalists). However, newspapers source do not meet WP:MEDRS, so the real question is verifiability of the medical claims. I honestly do not know if it is possible to write the article without making medical claims (in either direction). If yes, keep and cleanup, if not, delete. TigraanClick here to contact me 09:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. I think it's neutral, not promotional. The absurdity of the method is obvious. There's enough coverage for notability, and we do cover notable nonsense. DGG ( talk ) 15:47, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. As with the debate on the founder: after examining the discussion and also the likelihood of a WP:SOCK violation, and the views of those not emotionally involved with the topic, I believe there is a clear and actionable consensus to close this as a deletion. KaisaL (talk) 17:03, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This lengthy article essentially promotes the teachings of Abdul Hakim Ansari, a little-known 20th century religious teacher from Lahore, Pakistan. The text is based ENTIRELY on self-published sources - Urdu-language booklets published by the person's followers. Google search returns virtually ZERO English-language results for "Tauheediyah", which unfortunately is indicative of lack of notability even in Pakistan, given the country's significant English-speaking population. It seems that "Tauheediyah" is not an "Islamic doctrine" recognised or studied by anyone except Mr Ansari's followers. Virtually all substantial contributions to the article have been made by a single editor, also active in promoting the person on other Wikipedia articles, and a handful of IP editors, all tracing back to University of the Punjab and Quaid-i-Azam University. — kashmiriTALK 11:55, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete As is the case with the article about Ansari, the article about his/his followers' website is problematic in a number of ways. Articles about local, obscure South Asian religious movements are common; they tend to be detailed, technically well-written though by non-native speakers of English and illustrated with photos uploaded by the article creator prior to publication. It's a major violation of WP:NOTADVERTISING that frequently occurs, because these figures and organizations rarely have any coverage outside of self-published sources. That is the case with this organization, which fails WP:GNG as another good-faith but inappropriate attempt to create buzz using Wikipedia. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:30, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete per WP:NOTSOAPBOX, especially not if the sources are all primary and/or self-published. - HyperGaruda (talk) 07:11, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
KeepAbdul Hakim Ansari is the founder of a spiritual chain Tauheediyah. Tauheediyah is the spiritual chain and philosophy of spirituality and islamic mystycism that has many distinctions. Abdul Hakim Ansari books explained it in detail. Followers of Tauheediyah exist in many countries on the globe. They also belong to different nationalities, and language groups. Since the mid of twentieth century, many books have been written and published in connection to this spiritual chain; Tauheediyah. No doubt, all human beings are not of the same thinking. Conflict of thinkings, ideas, and interests may exist every where. As far as there is concern of the content of this wikipedia page, its contents are in accordance to the notability guidelines of wikipedia. If something needs improvement to satisfy additional guidelines, it can be done accordingly.Syed Rahmat Ullah Shah (talk) 18:53, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I still don't see any proof of notability, or even of the truth of these claims. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:30, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep It is suggested to read something in Urdu language on the subject. I wonder why someone over there consider the subject so anonymous. I try to suggest some secondary source such as printed encyclopedia to read about Tauheediyah. Hope your desire will satisfy soon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.238.61.141 (talk) 00:06, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Running SPI on User:Rahmatgee and the above IP (as well as 193.11.69.62 which is from the same town) would be warranted in case they make more disruption. — kashmiriTALK 09:29, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as between the information not being convincing and the sources are basically simply noticeably repeated, there's also the tone, which all suggests there's nothing else to actually keep. SwisterTwistertalk 05:47, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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No indication of notability per WP:MUSICBIO. Referenced only by a personal website titled "Jass Bajwa wiki - wikipedia details - Biography - personal info - Chakvi Mandeer album" on groupinfo4u.com. No significant coverage online in English from WP:RS. OnionRing (talk) 11:57, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. No coverage found, article doesn't make a convincing case for inclusion. --Michig (talk) 16:14, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Fails MUSICBIO. I had tagged this article for CSD but Adam9007 removed CSD citing "Article asserts enough significance to survive A7" when ZERO references were cited. Now the article has only this reference which is also a Wikipedia mirror; so in short the article has NO credible sources to back the claims. Arun Kumar SINGH (Talk) 11:57, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@AKS.9955: A7 does not require references, just a credible claim of significance. Many articles will survive A7 per policy and get deleted at PROD/AfD per policy. ---- Patar knight - chat/contributions 19:00, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - There's absolutely nothing to go on here to pass any guidelines whatsoever. Wikis aren't RS. MSJapan (talk) 06:16, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. After examining the discussion and also the likelihood of a WP:SOCK violation, and the views of those not emotionally involved with the topic, I believe there is a clear and actionable consensus to close this as a deletion. KaisaL (talk) 17:03, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Article written most likely by the followers of this little-known religious figure exclusively on the basis of self-published sources. So little known was the person that Google returns virtually zero meaningful hits on his name, except for the homepage of their group - which is surprising for a country with such a large English-speaking population. I suggest deleting the article as no evidence of notability or even significance is presented at the moment. — kashmiriTALK 12:03, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Very frequently, devotees of local South Asian religious figures create detailed articles on Wikipedia using self-published sources. What I'm seeing here, despite the large number of citations, is an article that is either cited by the subject's own work or the work of two followers, one from 1999 and one from 2010. This is a basic fail of WP:GNG, as there's no reliably sourced evidence here that the subject or his books were notable or received any coverage outside his website and circle of self-publishing followers. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:27, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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@HyperGaruda: Yep, it also reminded me of that case, although the scale here is much smaller: only four articles (this one, Tauheediyah, Muhammad Hanif Khan and Muhammad Siddique Dar, all of them self-sourced), one editor (likely also editing under IP - 193.11.69.62 and 77.238.61.141) and one opponent (Imranlatif786) whose contributions show in-fighting within the group... Interesting :) — kashmiriTALK 20:46, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
KeepAbdul Hakim Ansari is the founder of a spiritual chain Tauheediyah. Some books have been written on and about him. He is author of notable books that have considerable influence in religious as well as research literature on spirituality and islamic mysticism. His books have been translated into English and Arabic. His authored books are available in renouned libraries and research repositories including Library of Congress and are circulated worldwide. He has followers in many countries through out the globe. His teachings have also been explained onward in renouned books and reliable published sources by his followers. It is also admissible that few people may have conflict of their interest. Anyhow, this page is not the primary source on the subject.Syed Rahmat Ullah Shah (talk) 18:31, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
*Keep I have a suggestion. National Library of Pakistan is also the national repository of all published literature in Pakistan. There is enough material for research on the topic. Being dependent on googling is not enough due to language other than english. Wikipedia is a good source to start research. Don't think more on fewer cited sources coming out of one or two universities. Try to improve the page if you think something is not adequate. I will try to add some suggestions for further readings pretty soon on wikipedia. I believe construction is better than destruction. 77.238.61.141 (talk) 00:35, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I'm still not seeing any proof of this claimed notability mentioned by the user and IP address which left more or less the same exact comments on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tauheediyah. In fact, there isn't even any hard proof that any of these claims are true. If there are no sources to be found - and nobody has tried providing reliable, third party sources - then it doesn't matter what more IP addresses claim about research that isn't being done. MezzoMezzo (talk) 06:31, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Crossing out the IP edit. Mr Syed Rahmatullah Shah: please read WP:SOCK. I am posting it only here as a warning, because if I report it to admins your account will likely be blocked. — kashmiriTALK 10:20, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
kashmiri! Go ahead. Don't warn me of anything. Keep your warnings to your puppet. Focus on what you are doing.Syed Rahmat Ullah Shah (talk) 13:43, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as there's still noticeably troubles between the information and sourcing, this is best deleted for now until everything of concern can be improved. SwisterTwistertalk 05:50, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Subject does not appear to meet our notability guidelines. The article has little to no sources outside of his academic profiles. I've searched for additional sources and the results were not fruitful. Mike V • Talk 14:06, 7 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. He appears to be head of a new IIT (director, with the chancellor being a more honorary position); that passes WP:PROF#C6. He might also pass it a second time as head (vice chancellor) of Rajiv Gandhi University of Knowledge Technologies, but I know less about how significant that school is. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:07, 8 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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He has never won a major prize, just been a finalist; and there;s no stated evidence for any of his work in a major museum or the subject of substantial criticism; fails NARTIST. DGG ( talk ) 05:07, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, meets WP:ANYBIO ie. "1.The person has received a well-known and significant award or honor, or has been nominated for one several times.", knight has been a finalist for (or "nominated for") the Archibald Prize ("regarded as the most important portraiture prize in Australia") in 2005[23], 2006[24], 2007[25], 2009[26], 2010[27], 2013[28]; a finalist for the John Sulman Prize ("one of Australia's longest-running art prizes") in 2013[29], and 2015[30]; a finalist for the Wynne Prize ("one of Australia's longest-running art prizes") in 2005[31], 2006[32], 2011[33], 2012[34]. Coolabahapple (talk) 13:03, 26 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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delete impossible to establish notability. Staszek Lem (talk) 17:44, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete – at best, this looks like a case of WP:TOOSOON. But the other two projects Joseph has been involved with, So Awkward and Stardumb, themselves seem to rate no independent coverage. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:06, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete; fails WP:GNG at its most basic level. One or two minor sources that do not establish notability. Best, FoCuScontribs; talk to me! 02:12, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep thanks for telling me about the AFD. Couldn't find much in March, but searching under his Greek name Χρήστος Μπάτζιος gives more results including this, this and this , passes WP:BASICAtlantic306 (talk) 01:10, 16 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Nakon 05:47, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Extremely rare name. Nobody (or, as it appears from the phone directory, one single man) in Norway bears this name. Geschichte (talk) 18:49, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete the one source cited says this is actually a variant of Gundro, which does have more people using it as an actual name. Even so there seems to be practically no coverage of the name in reliable sources. Hut 8.5 21:37, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. It helps explain, or explains outright, the title of Iselilja. -- Softlavender (talk) 09:08, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Speedy Close - No valid reason has been presented for deletion, As this isn't a directory WP:NOTDIR doesn't even apply!. –Davey2010Talk 19:21, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep as a certainly sourceable name as demonstrated by my addition of multiple sources.[1][2][3][4][5] Add to that the Norwegian books that are indexed by Google, but without a preview or a snippet view, such as
^Norske Viser og Sange til Skolebrug [Norwegian ballads and songs for use in school] (in Norwegian). 1868. pp. 206–. Retrieved 24 June 2016. Knut liten og Sylvelin. Kungjen aa Knut liten dej sat ivi Bor, – Iselilja – Dej tala so mange dej skjemtande Or ...
^Moltke Moe (1922). Norske folkevisor: folkeutgåve [Norwegian folk ballads: people's edition] (in Norwegian). J. Dybwad. pp. 134–. Knut liten og Sylvelin. I 1. Knut liten og kongjen dei sat ivi bord, — Iselilja — dei tala so mange dei skjemtande ord. — So såre syrgjer Sylvelin fyr lisle Knut ...
^Harald S. Næss (1984). Knut Hamsun. Twayne Publishers. pp. 167–. ISBN978-0-8057-6562-5. The significance of the name Iselin is often brought up and never solved. To a Norwegian the name could contain the elements "ice" and "mild" ("is" and "linn"), but above all it is reminiscent of certain medieval folk ballads about princesses and rejected suitors, with names like Iselilja, Sylvelin, etc. In a ballad-inspired ...
^Nancy L. Coleman; Olav Veka (9 December 2010). A Handbook of Scandinavian Names. Univ of Wisconsin Press. pp. 11–. ISBN978-0-299-24833-8. Iselin (ee-seh-leen) A more recent name in Norway, probably influenced by names like Sylvelin, Vendelin, and Iselilja, known from old ballads. Made popular by a character in Norwegian author Knut Hamsun's novel Pan (1894).
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Apparent autobiography of business executive with no imaginable notability. A7 declined, though I do not see even an indication of significance DGG ( talk ) 23:14, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable businessman. The fact that it was created as an autobiography just makes it worse.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:04, 20 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - not notable, plus the article is an autobiography and is copied verbatim from the one source, which is the company's own website. Can't find anything suggesting notability, just social media accounts and run-of-the-mill business listings, directories and so on. Neiltonks (talk) 12:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Aspects of WP:CRYSTAL, does not meet WP:NALBUM. The argument for notability is based upon cult status for the film (which is sourced to a Mental Floss fact list, which is not RS, but which I left in to indicate the claim), and WP:NOTINHERITED.applies as well. Moreover, the musical never made it out of workshop (thus, never performed in public). So in the end, this is a duplicate of information already found in the Teen Witch#Adaptations section with some trivia laid over it. MSJapan (talk) 03:29, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
redirect, possibly merge something really essential, but definitely not the production detail and other PR musings from Caption Records. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:58, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Nakon 05:46, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Reposted Sept 2007 by User:Wetwarexpert . I can't read what was deleted, but the complaints made in 2006 still seem to apply to this article. This is just a variant of Biometrics that might have become important, but the field does not seem to have chosen to use this name. There is, however, a company using this term at telebiometrics.com. —jmcgnh(talk)(contribs) 03:23, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Wetwarexpert created the original too, with the same text that's here. Delete and redirect to biometrics, there's nothing here of use. (Or, per DeVerm below, just delete.) - David Gerard (talk) 09:14, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Fails WP:N and it talks about wetware (which seems to be the creator's favorite) which is sci-fi AFAIK. I may be uneducated in this area but I think it is nonsense and I can't find reliable sources that explain it. DeVerm (talk) 01:11, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - I looked into making it a redirect to Biometrics but the searches I do for Telebiometrics do not provide any news articles; for books only a book with Wikipedia articles etc. Unless I learn of common usage of this term instead of just "biometrics" I don't think a redirect is helpful? For now I leave my !vote above Delete. DeVerm (talk) 15:24, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep – I've expanded the article slightly and added five additional references. It seems notable given the WWII history of the Protectorate of Bohemia and Moravia and its status as an emergency issue zinc coin. I know WP:OSE, but the article seems more notable than many of the WP:WikiProject Numismatics atricles. Mojoworker (talk) 18:46, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep - Mojoworker's sources clearly establish this as notable. Meets GNG. Fieari (talk) 03:35, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep -- unless some one can find a merge target for WWII currency of occupied territories. This is not a wonderful article, but should be covered in WP. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:55, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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No significant coverage of this topic in the media by reliable sources, fails WP:N. There appear to be no reliable sources that cover this topic. Steve Quinn (talk) 01:30, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Merge to Reichsmark, of which it was a subdivision. That article has a section on coins. Possibly we might turn Reichspfennig (currently a dab-page) into a substantive article and merge all articles on coins below a Reichsmark into that. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:01, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Merge Per Peterking; no reason to suppose this denizen of four-for-a-dollar junk boxes is any more notable than the other WWII coins of Nazi Germany. If someone finds a lot to say about this particular coin, it can always be re-developed. Right now, no one has.--Wehwalt (talk) 23:00, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was no consensus. Nakon 05:46, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Does not seem to be notable, sources are entirely self-published. Recreation possible if it is shown as notable in the future. Carl Fredrik 💌📧 21:43, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and I would've pursued PROD instead as my searches have simply found nothing better at all, nothing particularly convincing. SwisterTwistertalk 22:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep it is the publisher of a monthly medical journal Maturitas which is frequently cited in news reports along with EMAS whenever there is a news report of something first published by EMAS in the journal. MB (talk) 00:03, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Comment - I will accept that Maturitas is notable. Is the publishing organization necessarily notable as well? I'm not making a rhetorical point here... I literally want to know the answer. Notability usually doesn't inherit, but in this case, I think there's an argument for it, given that the things in the journal may necessarily represent the activities/views/etc of the publisher, and having more information on the publisher may thus be useful. I'd like to hear other wikipedian's views on this particular case. Fieari (talk) 03:39, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment - Here is an example that sounds to me like this publisher is more significant than the publication: "European Menopause and Andropause Society Publishes Position Statement about the Post-reproductive Health of Women. The statement, published in Maturitas, covers the management of the menopause in the context of history of venous thromboembolism" MB (talk) 14:40, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Maturitas; if the journal is notable and the publisher is questionable, it's better to preserve the information by putting it in the former. ansh666 02:35, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Nakon 05:45, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Short comedy film with no reliable sources to support. From the content, it screened but never made it out. Once of the two sources from the article is a 404 and then other is not reliable. I was also unable to find anything reliable with a search in Google. CNMall41 (talk) 18:41, 6 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
A troll hit this page it did win the award, etc. -MR — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boonrob (talk • contribs) 00:48, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the comment. Would -MR stand for Mitch Robinson? Also, do you have a link to a reliable source showing the award? I looked and could not find one but you may see something I don't. --CNMall41 (talk) 01:45, 9 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete the award claimed does not seem to confer notability. This is a non-notable short film in an article likely produced by someone heavily involved in making the film. MLA (talk) 02:37, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as I noticeably found nothing better. SwisterTwistertalk 07:01, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Nakon 05:44, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as still nothing at all for any independent notability. SwisterTwistertalk 06:56, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. Nakon 05:44, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete non-notable EP by a non-notable group. Delete the whole lot of the related articles including the Drive-By group and characters such as Blaze Ya Dead Homie. MLA (talk) 09:07, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as still nothing at all actually convincing of independent notability. SwisterTwistertalk 06:56, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was delete. If Owen does suddenly meet a clear WP:MUSICBIO criteria - regular playlist rotation on a major radio station, a singles chart hit, etc - feel free to leave me a message for a restore. KaisaL (talk) 01:20, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Not yet notable per WP:MUSICBIO. He's had his work played on radio by some notable people, but he's had only one record released on a major label, nothing charted, works not yet been in rotation on radio, and no significant coverage online from WP:RS. Looks like WP:TOOSOON: I think it's worth userfying for a year, I bet he breaks through by then. OnionRing (talk) 08:49, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete as everything still suggests it's too soon at best, especially given the information and sources, which there is of course imaginably nothing else better. SwisterTwistertalk 06:59, 30 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails WP:ENT and WP:BASIC. No significant coverage in reliable sources and no significant impact in entertainment field. Brycehughes (talk) 02:34, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Has had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows and was award nominated. Mo2010 (talk) 03:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: While his role in Finding Carter is only medium sized, he has multiple claims to fame, also being in Between and Skins, and, with 3 reasonably well known TV shows under his belt, that should be enough to warrant an article. It was enough for me to click on his link to find out what else he has done. I note that not only has he had the 3 relatively major roles in major TV shows, but also 2 other minor roles in major shows NCIS and Cracked. That's well and truly enough to warrant an article. Mister Sneeze A Lot (talk) 11:36, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete A bunch of showbiz sites trying to come up with theories about who wrote a song and the subject not even giving them the time of day; this is a source dead end unless she comes out and says she used this alias. Nate•(chatter) 02:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Delete - as A3. It's not an article. GigglesnortHotel (talk) 13:47, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete. Local radio personalities do not get an automatic presumption of notability just for existing — while the Marconi Awardmight be credible as a "more notable than the norm claim" if it was sourced to media coverage about the award wins instead of to the award's own primary source website about itself, it doesn't confer an automatic inclusion freebie either. The sourcing here is not solid enough to get him over WP:GNG. Bearcat (talk) 17:02, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Strictly original research (WP:OR) and wholly unsourced article, other than that there is no saving grace of this article. Donnie Park (talk) 18:08, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
'Keep Poor sourcing of an article on a notable topic is reason to work to fix it, not delete it. Andy Dingley (talk) 18:36, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Notable article that needs some work. Should not be deleted. Ref added. Samf4u (talk) 15:50, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Further comment I request to withdraw this nomination. Donnie Park (talk) 17:35, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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No significant coverage in reliable sources - this not a notable topic. Steve Quinn (talk) 23:00, 13 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - the article is being looked at as part of WP:UKBRQDRIVE. Give them a month or two to sort it, then re-consider it if nothing or very little has changed. GammaRadiator (talk) 02:26, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
You do realise that I created UKBRQDRIVE back in 2009 and it's been barely active since? 99% sure a month or two won't change anything :P Jeni(talk) 10:15, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
By making that comment, you are technically saying that BRQDRIVE is no longer active. Therefore, it should be either deleted or should eventually reach its aim of bringing all bus route articles to an acceptable standard....somehow. Class455fan1 (talk) 21:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Yet another non notable bus route Jeni(talk) 10:15, 14 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Procedural Keep - It saddens me to see another article about a London Bus route come up for deletion, and I have just about had enough of it. Something has to be done about this. All bus routes should be notable enough for inclusion, if this was seriously "Not notable" then why is it only coming up for review several years after creation The problem is, sources on the internet are only from enthusiast sites, however some information can be found on books. The issue is that there are few bus enthusiasts which own a book on here (although I don't know this for certain). TfL barely produce any information about route history, this only being because of the fact it is only meant to show the current route etc. Apart from books, which no-one reads anymore partly due to the fact everything is now online, the only places to find information on the history of the route is on the enthusiast sites. Self-published websites and books should be allowed for this topic only, and i think I will take this to the village pump when I can to be reviewed, however, please bear in mind I have just returned from three months off this site. Also, when finding unsourced content in general on this topic, rather than removing it completely, an effort needs to be made to made to look this information up, rather than removing it completely. After all, Wikipedia is the world's leading online encyclopedia, and we editors are supposed to collaborate to improve the quality of articles, not removing content just because we can't be bothered to find a source for the information, which is what seems to be the case on some bus-related articles. Sorry for the rant, but Its about time something was said, and I'm going for procedural keep because we need to take action on all bus route articles. Either we bring them up to notability standard, by finding sources for them from websites and books, or we redirect them all to List of bus routes in London, but we should consider helping to bring all bus route articles to a certain standard to stand a chance of them staying on the encyclopedia rather than just removing content and leaving articles about bus routes vulnerable for deletion. Class455fan1 (talk) 21:46, 17 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is, there aren't any reliable sources that cover this route (this particular topic). Apparently, this route has not had a notable impact on the London scene. Also, I am not seeing any enthusiasts' webities that cover this. If these exist, then these websites might have sources that cover this - which can be added here. In any case, as it stands this is a not a notable topic, and at best we might be able to say this bus route exists. But that does not qualify this topic for inclusion on Wikipedia. Sorry... ----Steve Quinn (talk) 05:35, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I found one [[36]] here. The sources available includes photographs and some scanned copies of timetables where the route used to run before. Class455fan1 (talk) 09:18, 18 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
That is a self-published source/fansite which we do not use for referencing.Charles (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Redirect some individual bus routes are notable, therefore all individual bus routes in the same set are likely search terms and so we should direct the readers searching for the non-notable ones to the content we have - i.e. the list, which also contains useful external resources for them to continue their research if desired. Thryduulf (talk) 02:16, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect as per all other routes that have not demonstrated notability (Ajf773 (talk) 10:11, 21 June 2016 (UTC))[reply]
Redirect as above. Utterly non-notable.Charles (talk) 15:58, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete and redirect per above. It is worth deleting it to avoid reversions. NordicDragon 07:22, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Solid keep. Sorry nominator, but the topic easily met WP:GNG and W:NF before you made the decision to bring it to AFD. WP:NEXIST. Schmidt, Michael Q. 09:01, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep This topic is sufficiently notable. --Dcirovic (talk) 22:27, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Promotional and non-notable. Theusual cute story of how it got started is normal promotional fare. The references are either about other products primarily or are incidental mentions or name-dropping (The NYT Magazine one, for example, is a very short fashion paragraph mainly about another company). DGG ( talk ) 00:40, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The company meets WP:CORPDEPTH. Only the Partnerships section in the article has a promotional tone, which is minor, and can be corrected by simple copy editing. Also keep per WP:NEXIST, because notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. Source examples include, but are not limited to those listed below. North America1000 01:45, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Notable jewelry company, with national level references, a clean-up would be welcome of course. Jeremy112233(Lettuce-jibber-jabber?) 15:57, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Of note is that the two delete !votes following the nomination are not guideline- or policy-based. North America1000 17:47, 29 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Does not meet WP:GNG. Carter is known for his contribution to laser tag, so perhaps a redirect to that article is warranted, but there is not much depth of coverage from reliable, independent sources, even in the "Press Mentions" section of his own web page. The other two inventions do not seem to have received any coverage outside of Carter's website, and the inclusion of their patents constitutes original research without proving anything -- the existence of a patent in no way guarantees the notability of the invention. ubiquity (talk) 00:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Added New York Times, Newsweek, Chicago Tribune, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal etc interviews and news reports on Carter. Satisfies GNG. Xender Lourdes (talk) 03:31, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Obscure yes, but meets WP:BASIC with multiple bylined articles from notable, non-local-only newspapers. Fieari (talk) 03:32, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - He's obscure, but not insignificant. He has garnered a lot of press largely over laser tag, but has created both minor and major inventions that are worth noting. I'll work on finding more media sources. However pre internet makes some of these press mentions harder to find. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Masonpelt (talk • contribs) 21:57, 27 June 2016 (UTC) — Masonpelt (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
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WP:TOOSOON for this musical artist, not close to meeting WP:MUSICBIO. No collective notability, has only unreleased/soon-to-be-released recordings. Lots of refs, most of which are local appearances, school paper, etc. ☾Loriendrew☽☏(ring-ring) 00:26, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
He has recordings and his group has garnished 10k plays for songs that he himself produced and featured on I can include the features and the songs that he has been featured on that has over 10,000 plays. I also just doubled checked and realized that he decided to release his song early and it is even out now on spotify and google play and itunes and more. I can make the changes to match this so this can further prove its important, and that was a university newspaper! It proves that he went to FAMU and proves that he is credible and the it is not just local because he has performed in California and there are countless blogs from the festival in California that talk about him, those are more then credible.
that "Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases." are notable which makes my source being his university newspaper valid.
It is also stated that "Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g., a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a notable compilation album, etc."
His single will be on stream across the united states on PBS in 2017 and it was just release! he pushed up the date from what i saw also it is stated that "Concert tours are probably notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. Such coverage might show notability in terms of artistic approach, financial success, relationship to audience, or other such terms. Sources that merely establish that a tour happened are not sufficient to demonstrate notability"
They lost because they did not place first at the okeechobee music and arts festival which was festival that was on a national scale with artist from Kendrick Lamar and J.Cole him along with his collective placed 3rd. Moonshine2424 (talk) 01:05, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Responding to Moonshine2424, I have to point out that the policy mentioned specifically says school/university newspapers are NOT valid sources for establishing notability. Please note the word "EXCEPT".
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries except for the following: (...) Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases.
I make no judgment about the rest of your arguments at this time (don't have the time to go through it yet), but I do want to clear that up. Fieari (talk) 01:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Responding to Fieari "Musicians or ensembles (this category includes bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.) may be notable if they meet at least one of the following criteria:
Has been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, published works appearing in sources that are reliable, not self-published, and are independent of the musician or ensemble itself.[note 1]
This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, magazine articles, online versions of print media, and television documentaries[note 2] except for the following:
Any reprints of press releases, other publications where the musician or ensemble talks about themselves, and all advertising that mentions the musician or ensemble, including manufacturers' advertising.[note 3]
Works consisting merely of trivial coverage, such as articles that simply report performance dates, release information or track listings, or the publications of contact and booking details in directories."
Articles in a school or university newspaper (or similar), in most cases. and thanks for taking a look — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonshine2424 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Again, in what you just quoted, it says "except for the following:" (emphasis mine). School newspapers are listed beneath "except". Fieari (talk) 01:36, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
I dont why i didnt notice the except but there is the proof that this individuals did credible music frstivals where he had to have a thoe of following ti even perform somewhere with so many huge people and to make it to the last round to perform with some of musics biggest names — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonshine2424 (talk • contribs) 18:51, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Simply not notable at this time and possible COI. Samf4u (talk) 12:00, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Because Moonshine2424 has made such an impassioned plea to save this article, I actually spent time checking out the various links. The sum total are trivial and user generated. Being "credible" and having a "following" does not translate to "notable." Agree this may be a case of TOO SOON if all the subject's goals pan out. For now, though, there is really nothing of stand out significance here that merits a wikipedia entry. ShelbyMarion (talk) 23:00, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as WP:TOOSOON. Links to Spotify or Google Play or Soundcloud do not cut it for sourcing — they are primary sources, not reliable source coverage in media. As noted above, NMUSIC deprecates college and university newspapers as unable to carry notability. Nothing claimed in the article clears any part of NMUSIC, and none of it is reliably sourced — verification of notability is not the same thing as verification of existence, and a musician does not automatically qualify for a Wikipedia article just because he exists. Creator's username also implies a potential conflict of interest. Bearcat (talk) 02:54, 28 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Withdrawn DGG ( talk ) 04:01, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
This is in my opinion a famous product, but I do not see 3rd party sources for notability . The bloomberg item is just a routine company profile. . DGG ( talk ) 00:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep per WP:NEXIST. It's trivially simple to see thousands of references to this product all over the place. Given that the nom's deletion reason is simply the current state of referencing, and even acknowledges that this is a notable product, I'd suggest Speedy Keep. Fieari (talk) 00:53, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The topic passes WP:CORPDEPTH. Also keep per WP:NEXIST, because notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. Source examples include, but are not limited to those listed below. North America1000 01:19, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, although it now needs a certain amount of de-fluffing... Pinkbeast (talk) 14:57, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy Keep - Why wasn't WP:BEFORE performed ? .... Anyway meets GNG. –Davey2010Talk 19:25, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I see plenty of third party coverage that easily establishes notability. --Michig (talk) 06:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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Insufficient sources for notability. WSJ can of course be a good reference--except that this particular WSJ article does not even mention the company. DGG ( talk ) 00:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – The topic passes WP:CORPDEPTH per book coverage and coverage in bylinednews articles written by staff writers that have been published in independent, reliable sources. Note that regarding the latter, these are not press releases, as evidenced in part by utilizing Google searches using the titles of these article, in which links are only present for these articles themselves, as opposed to press releases, which typically have many links to the same article hosted on various websites.
Also keep per WP:NEXIST, because notability is based on the existence of suitable sources, not on the state of sourcing in an article. Source examples include, but are not limited to those listed below. North America1000 00:38, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - Clearly meets notability standards. The BusinessWeek reference, for instance, would be sufficient on its own, but the reliable reporting by FAR is not limited to that. Fieari (talk) 00:49, 21 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Comment At least some of these are not third party. The author bio in 'Becoming a Trustworthy Leader: Psychology and Practice' is the blurb in a book for one of its contributors. Such blurbs are written by the subject and the PR staff, and are exactly equivalent to the author praising himself on Amazon. DGG ( talk ) 04:05, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: I think your assessment of Becoming a Trustworthy Leader: Psychology and Practice is incorrect. Scroll up and down on the 13-page appendix page, which is titled "Appendix A: Leader and Scholar Biographies" and notice all of those names. This is a book about leadership, and the Appendix simply denotes notable leaders in a biographical format. It's quite unlikely that the subject contributed to the book, and several searches did not provide any evidence of this claim whatsoever. The book only has two authors, and in checking it out, it is not written in a format with any guest contributors. North America1000 07:56, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I read a rather long article about this company years ago (probably in the Lansing State Journal) but that was probably in 97 or so? So I know there is a source out there. Also [41] has a decent amount of coverage. [42] also has a fair bit of detail. Hobit (talk) 21:30, 27 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was speedy delete. Inappropriate political analysis drawing conclusions in Wikipedia's voice about politics in an election year. This is an obvious coatrack intended to express a critical opinion, inappropriate as an encyclopedia article. Please do not use Wikipedia articles to express an editorial opinion. Acroterion(talk) 23:19, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Appreciate the congrats for being right on Islamic terrorism[edit]
This seems to have received significant amount of coverage, just like almost everything he has said since he announced his campaign. In my understanding, this is not notable enough to have an article of its own. Wikipedia is not a newspaper. Yash! 23:03, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete G10. Not even close to meeting WP:NPOV. Adam9007 (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
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