The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep. Deathphoenix ʕ 06:51, 22 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of lists of songs[edit]

LISTEN UP PEOPLE! You guys keep accusing me to producing listcruft which I think is a legitimate contribution. Also, you guys keep accusing me for vandalism; which is unintentional to my standards! so; I would like to have some people delete all song lists if they think it is listcruft!

• Delete this and all other song lists as per people opposition toward the lists I produced. Also, delete as per the prior AFDs on other song lists. --Nintendude 15:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Two comments: a metalist, very interesting...and please don't nominate things to prove a WP:POINT. Metros232 15:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Lists should almost all be categories. This should be a metacategory. This falls squarely into WP:NOT. I don't think Nintendude is proving a point as such, is he? Vizjim 15:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• I believe he is [1]. He is responding to the nomination of lists that he created that have found their way to AfD lately. His rational for nominating seems to be "well if people are nominating mine, I'll nominate others'". I'm not arguing the merits of the articles/lists, I'm just saying that I don't want to see mass amounts of lists added to AfD because of this all. Metros232 15:25, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• You're right, I should've spotted that. What's the rules, then? Even though I think this article should be deleted, one votes to keep as it's a POINT issue? Vizjim 15:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep — If you want to categorize all of this information, then you should do so. Just deleting the page doesn't get it categorized. Right now it's well-organized, and I see no reason to rush to a delete. Thanks. :-) — RJH 16:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: Could someone explain which criterion for deletion this article meets? I'm not sure I understand the objection to what I find a very useful page and/or category. Szarka 17:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete We could make a lot of lists about a lot of things. I see this making a great blog post or a website. I don't see this having encyclopedic value--Crossmr 17:55, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Categorize and refer User:Nintendude to WP:POINT. TheProject 19:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. It's open to debate which individual lists are worthy of keeping, but this is a useful reference and index for Wikipedia users. Nintendude is clearly in violation of WP:POINT here. Perhaps if he examined the articles in this list he'd get some idea as to the types of list articles that are actually acceptable. 23skidoo 19:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per 23skidoo, but please move back to List of songs. The current title is bizarre in that it's really indicating a list of Wikipedia articles rather than a list of actual concepts. CanadianCaesar Cæsar is turn’d to hear 20:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep An actual useful (and rather important) list. Extremely bad faith nomination. -- Kicking222 20:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• WP:POINT, WP:POINT, WP:POINT, WP:POINT, WP:POINT, WP:POINT, WP:POINT, WP:POINT. Keep. Aplomado ^talk 21:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep once again the "Categories supercede lists" twaddle..... Jcuk 22:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per 23Skidoo and being a violation of WP:POINT. And yes, it needs categorization. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 22:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment: What we need now is a List of lists of lists. Oh wait, we have one. Aplomado ^talk 22:18, 15 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. I hate lists, but you can't delete this if you support keeping the others. That's a double standard, and reduces those other lists to orphaned pointlessness. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk |

Keep - This is probably the best article on the entire site! Getting rid is the absolute worst thing to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.111.32 (talk • contribs)

• Keep per 23skidoo. -LtNOWIS 01:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Turn it into a category as Vizjim above. I can't imagine any use for "Lists of lists" or anything that couldn't be accomplished with a category. BigDT 02:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Listcruft and very hard if not impossible to maintain. Categories are better in such cases. kingboyk 11:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment A category does sound like it might be a better way to organize this information. Szarka 14:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect List of lists of songs to it's main parent category as per the votes by the people who want it turned into a category subsequent to the first vote. --Nintendude 18:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Please don't purge this. It helps not only me but millions of surfers who solely depend on your site. "Clift Daluz."
• Keep: nomination is bad faith and WP:POINT. --BrownHairedGirl (talk • contribs) 16:26, 17 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep and move to list of songs or lists of songs. "List of lists" is awkward. -Sean Curtin 03:32, 18 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. This kind of sorting should be done through categorization, not another list which will be very difficult to maintain. Zaxem 06:41, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This may not be a traditional Wikipedia article, but it's still a very useful one.--Josh 14:17, 21 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.