The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --Core desat 06:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

List of defunct shopping malls[edit]

Listcruft of red linked, USA-centric defunct non-notable shopping malls. The list itself is getting out of hand and is "unlimited and/or unmaintainable". Tomj 14:59, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. If the malls (especially the redlinked malls) are defunct, they will never become more notable and are unlikely to merit their own articles. --Evb-wiki 15:38, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom and per above--Victor falk 15:42, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete indeed, I raised this issue on the talk page, and obviously someone decided to simply bring it here. It is USA only, not-notable, and simply silly! — Preceding unsigned comment added by I ate jelly (talk • contribs)

Discussion: If the name was simply changed to "List of defunct USA shopping malls," would that be enough to keep it? 6thAvenue 16:35, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response: No, because the majority of the content would be non-notable and non-verifiable. Tomj 16:57, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Even if this list was restricted to the United States, it possibilities are still unlimited. Think about how many shopping malls are built and destroyed every year. Thousands if not tens of thousands. Also this information really serves no practical use for anyone interested in an encyclopedia and anyone truly looking for this information should not be coming here for it. Mkdw ^talk 20:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment doesn't this duplicate the category? 132.205.44.5 22:19, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I've been involved with this article for a long time, and it was originally created in order to be verifiable, but it seems to have spun somewhat out of control. Do with it as consensus dictates, but if this one dies, take List of shopping malls converted to outdoor format with it, which has similar problems. SchuminWeb (Talk) 23:02, 2 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete It had a purpose once, as an attempt to bring some order into the articles on the subject, but it is un-needed now. DGG (talk) 00:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Most of the malls there are not notable and it is to much USA-centric as well. Better in a category instead.--JForget 01:23, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep Actually, this is a topic that is a problem in urban planning. When a mall goes defunct, it leaves behind an abandoned building that nobody knows what to do with... it can't be leased out, costs more to demolish than to let rot, leaves a parking lot in the middle of nowhere, and wastes acres of prime land. There's a similar problem when a Wal-Mart leaves for a larger location, and a "box" is left behind. Maybe there's an article about the problem, and this can be merged into it. (By the way, I know this will piss off everyone who hates trivia, but the "Dixie Square Mall" in Harvey, Illinois... that's where the classic mall-destroying chase scene in The Blues Brothers was filmed. The mall had gone out of business in the late 1970s, and was restocked for the shooting of the movie. Maybe someone can nominate this discussion for deletion...)Mandsford 00:24, 4 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response:Then there should be an article discussing the problems with defunct shopping malls, not simply a meaningless, trivial list of malls that have caused said problems. In fact, there is. See Dead Mall, maybe that article should be improved to include a few illustrative examples from this one, not simply a list.Falard 13:52, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Merge blue-linked list elements into Dead mall. As Mandsford says, dead malls are a very big social and economic issue in communities across North America. Merging the list items into the topical article (as examples) would enhance the article. Also note related AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of shopping malls converted to outdoor format --orlady 16:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- As I mentioned in the outdoor-format comparison, how do you rectify that merged list becoming a gigantic pile of listcruft again down the road? SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Big Bang Strong Delete blue-linked defucnt malls should be deleted as well, unless they're notable such as the first mall built in USA or the largest mall ever closed, since these places are defunct. What's next? city's prime lots available for construction? AMAPO 19:04, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - Put the notable ones in a similiar category Corpx 20:16, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, per mandsford and and orlady. Once notable, is always notable. Mathmo ^Talk 21:13, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep These malls are a real issue affecting many areas! Bmhs823 22:06, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.