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The result was keep‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:35, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

List of Kentucky Wildcats basketball players[edit]

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Fails WP:NLIST. It's a bunch of hand-picked former players with no clear, consistent criteria for inclusion. The list borders on being trivial, too. Each of the players are notable unto themselves, but there are no third-party sources that describe all of these players as a group with overlapping notability beyond having simply played for Kentucky. SportsGuy789 (talk) 00:20, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Lists of people, Basketball, and Kentucky. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 00:56, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep per WP:NOTDUP, this is a standard navigational list complementary to the category. The very obvious criteria for inclusion are 1) Kentucky Wildcats basketball players; 2) who have articles. NLIST is neither a helpful nor necessary approach here. postdlf (talk) 01:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Note. This is a navigational list. There should be no need to find sources discussing all players in one place. Cbl62 (talk) 01:14, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep - However, this list contains only the men's basketball players. My only suggestion would be that this be renamed to List of Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball players, to distinguish it from the articles about Kentucky Wildcats women's basketball. — Maile (talk) 15:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep per all Keeps above. This looks like a garden variety list article. We keep alumni lists and lists of people who are from a particular area, and this falls into that rubric. That it's incomplete just means it needs to be made complete. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 18:39, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete per nom. There is a category for that and any list should have more specific criteria (those who played in the NBA, won awards, etc.). The parameters are too broad. Rikster2 (talk) 21:16, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  Those kinds of lists would be useful for sure, but this particular list isn't flat like a category is. It contains columns for differentiating details. Could it be richer in presentation? Perhaps - but I don't think that's a strong enough reason to delete. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 21:21, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

  • Why is it necessary to have a list that needs to be maintained when there is a category collecting the exact same information? Yes, it can be presented differently but I don’t think that’s a good reason to keep, to use your same language. Right now it is not comprehensive because it can’t keep up with new player articles being created Rikster2 (talk) 21:23, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    It is clearly encyclopedically useful to readers to be able to not only see all notable UK men's basketball players, but also to be able to sort by when they played - a category does not provide that sort. Also, again, that it's incomplete today or has trouble catching up so far are really not relevant to this discussion. This is clearly not a mere duplication of a category. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 21:30, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

    • • It’s relevant because as the nomination noted, there is zero criteria for the inclusion of those currently on the list. Historically we have avoided this type of article for college basketball because it adds minimal value and nobody steps up to maintain it. This isn’t a sports almanac, it’s an encyclopedia. Rikster2 (talk) 21:51, 15 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

• Keep - Per WP:CLT, a category doesn't preclude also having a list article. And there are reliable sources that provide information on the Kentucky men's basketball players as a group such as here. Rlendog (talk) 19:53, 16 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • That link is just a sort option on basketball-reference. You can literally sort by any school, it doesn’t demonstrate notability for this list. The site is a stat site for NBA players so if it shows anything it is that “Kentucky Wildcats who played in the NBA” might be a notable list option Rikster2 (talk) 13:37, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Delete per Rikster2's reasoning. Best, GPL93 (talk) 17:09, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Keep per reasoning above provided by Postdlf, StefenTower and Rlendog. Cbl62 (talk) 17:10, 17 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
• Comment Browsing over this on Google, most sources I found are about Kentucky players in the NBA. There are however a few sources that discuss the greatest Kentucky basketball players of all time without referencing their NBA careers such as [1][2] but this list isn't limited to them. If kept, then it should probably be moved to List of Kentucky Wildcats men's basketball players as it only covers the men's program. Alvaldi (talk) 10:59, 18 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

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