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The result of the debate was Keep. Death phoenix 21:40, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Lisa Donahue[edit]

Author removed the VfD notice so this nomination never ran its' course. Originally submitted by TonyW -- Longhair | Talk 14:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: If you had even looked at the history, I removed the tag FIFTEEN DAYS after it was nominated, as it was evident there was either a consensus to keep or no consensus at all (I lean toward keep, as the only two votes were votes to keep it). The thing I'm probably most guilty of is not realizing, at that time, how to properly close a VFD. This really shouldn't be renominated if you're going to make me look like I was trying to hide the VFD process, when I wasn't. At all. Mike H 16:08, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Comment: Whatever Mike. The VfD was closed incorrectly, by yourself. Let it run it's course as every other VfD should. Why post this here when it's been posted on my talk page as well? It wasn't renominated, it was listed correctly on the VfD page itself, as it never was in the first place. There are 3 stages to listing a VfD. Two were performed. What's your point? (and take it to my talk page) -- Longhair | Talk 22:34, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This comment was removed by Longhair once already. Please do not remove it again. Mike H 03:10, May 26, 2005 (UTC)

Lisa Donahue was a contestant on the reality TV show Big Brother (USA), and as such has no other claim to fame. With that in mind, it's not worth having as an encyclopedic entry. -TonyW 00:38, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)

Not just a contestant, but the winner. I think that's notable enough for an entry. Keep. — Kate Turner | Talk 00:49, 2004 Sep 4 (UTC)
If we decide to delete these, then we get into the "Should we delete all the articles on American Idol finalists?" and such. It's all very subjective and since these people were on nationally televised shows for a lengthy period of time, this is quite notable. Keep Mike H 00:50, Sep 4, 2004 (UTC)
Merge into a page about the contestants on the Big Brother (USA TV series). Only one line worth of information on the page is actually bio: the remainder is related to the TV show. Until she gets her big role in a movie, I think this can be rolled up into a group summary page. — RJH 15:16, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- There are over 48 contestants, with 12 more coming in this summer. A page like that would easily get over the limit. Mike H 16:10, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
  - The simple solution to the length problem would be, in that eventuality, to have breakout pages for the individual seasons. Uncle G 22:42, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
Merge, as RJH suggests. kmccoy (talk) 16:21, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Flag as stub. Reality show winners have notablitly, like it or not.--Tznkai 16:24, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, plenty notable enough for an unlimited encyclopedia. Kappa 18:16, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Merge to Big Brother (USA TV Series). Reality show contestants, like most quiz show contestants, are not achieving anything, really. They're being shown. That's it. Talk about them where people will seek the information, which is the show's article. Otherwise, we're betting that their names will be important in 5 years -- a bet that I'd never take. Geogre 18:22, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Strong Keep notable famous person, even if it is basically famous for being famous. We keep Paris Hilton, ergo we keep Lisa Donahue. Internodeuser 19:26, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep agree with Internodeuser, Andy Warhol would be proud. Klonimus 23:00, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Paris Hilton is also famous for being rich, and also has far more things to include in a biography, such as a filmography I see. (What happened to the two movies for 2004 that were predicted for Lisa Donahue? Has Lisa Donahue actually done anything of note outside of the television show?) Uncle G 22:42, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
- Agree with Uncle G, merge. To be famous for being famous, you first have to be famous. Google hits for "Paris Hilton": 5,700,000. Google hits for "Lisa Donahue": 744. Donahue only has one movie role listed at IMDb, and the film it was in has not been released. --Metropolitan90 00:03, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
Merge in full agreement with Geogre. Barno 20:49, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
How does this meet the Wikipedia:criteria for inclusion of biographies? Uncle G 22:42, 2005 May 25 (UTC)
Delete, Internodeuser's vote is nonsense. Rick K 22:48, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
Delete -- not notable. Perhaps merge into a combined article covering all housemates if it must stay. - Longhair | Talk 23:13, 25 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Uncle G. Quale 00:41, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Uncle G, first choice. Merge/redir w/Big Brother (USA TV series) per Georgre second choice. (and lets get rid of the redlinks to all the contestants that lost!)Niteowlneils 01:07, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. I dont object to winners getting articles, winning is a notable achievement particularly for something thats televised to millions.. Its the failed contestants that dont even reach finals that should be deleted. Megan1967 06:03, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per Uncle g. R adiant _* 13:39, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
keep this too please people will search for it Yuckfoo 18:58, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I personally hate these shows, but their winners are notable. Xoloz 19:10, 26 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep notable winner. JamesBurns 11:16, 27 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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