The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Keep Karmafist 01:07, 19 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Kimi Finster[edit]

This article is pretty much ruined due to the fact that it's pretty much biased.

I've noticed that the contributors aren't being objective about Kimi Finster, they are just showing their point of view about the character without letting other people to contribute on the article.

The Page is full of paragraphs speculating about uncertain future events which is forbidden here, they have included little irrelevant details that just help to make the article look bigger but not adding something important to it, they have enlisted skills about the character that are barely shown and instead of explaining them they just quote scenes where Kimi appears.

And they do not let other contributors to add stuff to the article which is very unfair becaue Wikipedia does not belong to them and their biased opinions shouldn't be part of the article either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamao (talk • contribs) 19:18, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

• This afd nomination was orphaned. Listing now. —Crypticbot (operator) 13:30, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep, deleting shouldn't be used to conclude edit wars. Bobet 14:42, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep per Bobet. —Cleared as filed. 15:23, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per Bobet. There are procedures for resolving disputes, such as mediation and RfC's. AfD is not one of these procedures. → Ξxtreme Unction {yak yak yak ł blah blah blah} 15:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete The article should be deleted, is not just an editing war, the article is messed up without any important information, instead just scenes where the character was at and pictures which people are using more as a fansite devoted to the character instead of an information page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tamao (talk • contribs) 17:06, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
  • comment as part of the wikipedia policy: Neutral point of view , the article is completly biased and it does look like the contributors want to make a fansite using wikipedia which is forbidden too.Tamao 18:10, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Wikipedia:Deletion policy#What to do with a problem page/image/category states pretty clearly how to deal with an article that has POV problems. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 18:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment ∾ Multiple votes on a page you've nominated is bad juju. If you have things to add, you can add comments. Adding multiple votes doesn't serve your purpose at all, and smacks of petulance and an attempt to game the AfD procedures. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 17:48, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment ∾ Also, you can sign your votes and comments by typing ~~~~ at the end. The Wikipedia software will automatically turn that into a signature displaying your username and so on. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 17:53, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Certainly it should be possible to write a neutral article about Kimi Finster, who after all is just a fictional character. The editing dispute should be resolved in some other way besides deletion of the whole article per Bobet and Extreme Unction. Also, each person gets a maximum of one vote in an Articles for Deletion discussion; if a voter has more to say after voting, they should phrase it as a comment rather than a separate vote. Keeping this article does not mean we endorse everything written in it, just that the article is worthy of staying in Wikipedia even if editing is needed. --Metropolitan90 17:49, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • comment If this page is still worthy for wikipedia, it needs a lot of cleaning, it's not only the biased comments around the character, it also is speculating ,the contributors should Check the facs because a good amount of the information is about uncertain future events, and other information like coupling that doesn't happen in the show alas is irrelevant information. Tamao 18:10, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • That's why Wikipedia:Cleanup exists. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 18:25, 12 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment I used the clean up page, so I hope this page can be finally fixed and get rid of the biased and unecessary stuff, Thanks for your help.Tamao 05:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Listen, I'm one of the contributors and to say we do NOT allow other contributors to add there stuff is false. Check the history of most of that which was removed. Most of it were additions that were extremely negative towards Kimi (one of which stated she was bi-polar) other additions are usually left alone. We had been trying a best to be unbiased, we never knew we were. We will make the neccessary changes asap. However, the discussions about future episodes has happened on the other AGU characters articles, like about TP+KF. Staredcraft 11:04, 13 Novermber 2005 (UTC)
• comment the page is biased because it has information that doesn't support the points you have about Kimi, plus you constantly use the same information to make it look bigger, and about the uncertain future events I mean episodes not confirmed yet, and the coupling shouldn't be included because it isn't part of the show, it's stuff from the fans so is irrelevant to the character.Tamao 16:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • The best place for you folks to discuss what should or should not be on the Kimi Finster page is at Talk:Kimi Finster, rather than here in the AfD section. → Ξxtreme Unction {^yakł_blah} 16:21, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• comment I already did, I posted my complains about the article there, so I think this is no needed anymore unless someone has something to say about deleting the article. Tamao 16:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong merge, after cleaning up with a tactical nuclear strike (It's the only way to be sure.) Wow, this article has loads and loads and loads of nonsense and trivia, but after judicious pruning, it would make a great listing on a list of characters in Rugrats/AGU. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 14:20, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment: You people have the opportunity to contribute to the first truly free base of human knowledge in history, and you fill it with character profiles for obscure, poorly-written-and-drawn cartoons that no one will care about in 10 years? Get some priorities. — Phil Welch 18:32, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I certainly remember Kirk. I dont quite get the idea. Fiction is welcome on wikipedia, no one cares about Verdandi, a fictional character. I find that to be a poor argument. --Cool Cat ^Talk 20:40, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Straw man. I said "obscure, poorly-written-and-drawn cartoons that no one will care about in 10 years," not "all works of fiction and mythology". — Phil Welch 22:20, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep... How I hate Vfds, let me count the ways (votes)... --Cool Cat ^Talk 20:40, 14 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Notable enough. It needs copyeditting though. *drew 18:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.