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The result was redirect‎ to 2000 AD (comics). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:09, 20 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Judge (2000 AD)[edit]

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A fictional concept from Judge Dredd's universe, a lenghty plot summary with no reception/analysis, many footnotes here but they are all to the comic book, with one exception (Facebook post...). I prodded it with the following rationale: "The coverage (references, external links, etc.) does not seem sufficient to justify this article passing Wikipedia:General notability guideline requirement nor the more detailed Wikipedia:Notability (fiction) supplementary essay. WP:BEFORE did not reveal any significant coverage on Gnews, Gbooks or Gscholar." It was deprodded by User:Necrothesp with the following rationale " I think this needs to go to AfD" which IMHO is not a helpful rationale, but - let's discuss. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Fictional elements, Science fiction and fantasy, and Comics and animation. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:31, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete This looks like a rehash of the premise for the series. Lacking reliable sources as is, but WP:BEFORE doesn't really distinguish between this and the series itself. Not enough WP:SIGCOV for a separate article. Shooterwalker (talk) 04:08, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment. It was deprodded by User:Necrothesp with the following rationale "I think this needs to go to AfD" which IMHO is not a helpful rationale... As you very well know, a prodded article can be deprodded by anyone for any reason or none. As you also very well know (or should do), prodding should not be used as an attempt to get around AfD and should never be used if opposition could be reasonably foreseen. I do not consider that this is an article that should simply be deleted without discussion. Prodding is becoming worryingly common on articles for which deletion could clearly be controversial. To reiterate, prodding is for uncontroversial deletion only. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:13, 30 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep BUT leave flags for improvement

The page itself seems notable for the comic, video game and cinema universe but it's not realistic in my opinion to only provide print sources for the comic book itself plus Facebook to cite an article of this length. Definitely needs improvement but I personally would keep. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WrestlingHistoryFan (talk • contribs) 22:51, 31 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Already PROD'd so not eligible for Soft Deletion.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:38, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to 2000 AD (comics) as WP:ATD-R —siroχo 04:43, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge to Judge Dredd. Richard75 (talk) 10:58, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: We have two different suggested target articles for Redirect/Merge. Please settle on one.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:14, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment to provide some context to my above suggestion. I think 2000 AD (comics) is more appropriate as the work originating the concept. Personally, I think redirecting from an idea to a fictional character is more WP:ASTONISHing than redirecting to the work originating the idea. I am of course willing to hear alternative points of view. —siroχo 04:38, 13 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
• !voting delete above, I could support a redirect to 2000 AD (comics), as suggested by Siroxo. Following on their comment, I could also be convinced for another idea. Further expansion and/or retargeting could happen through the editing process after the AFD is closed. Shooterwalker (talk) 14:22, 15 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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