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The result was no consensus.  Sandstein  06:04, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Joshua Greenberg[edit]

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LotLE -- Aha, the shortcut to WP:NOTINHERITED was a welcome gesture. It helps me begin to parse this more finely. The word "measuring" was particularly good. I hadn't quite recognized that I was conflating two measuring standards which needed to be assessed separately. Let me think about this. --Tenmei (talk) 19:04, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fundamentally, the subject of this article is notable solely because David Ferriero identifies Josh Greenberg as notable. That's the bottom-line which caused me to draft this article. This stub has been prepared for others like me who wonder who is Joshua Greenberg and what is Ferriero talking about when he mentions him.
Ferriero's asserted opinion becomes -- ipse dixit -- good and sufficient rationale for retaining this article. In other words, I'm arguing that Greenberg is notable even if Ferriero's assessment were a bare assertion fallacy in another context. In Ferriero's area of expertise, his opinion has stand-alone credibility for the purposes of assessing this stub for notability.
I don't understand nor can I explain what Ferriero means when he assigns some kind of pivotal quality to Greenberg. In my view, the two statements above are enough to satisfy WP:Notability.
As you may know, Ferriero has been nominated to become the 10th Archivist of the United States. This is apples and oranges in terms of the general topic of libraries and librarians and a host of other relevant issues. Nevertheless, the nomination does enhance the weight to be accorded Ferriero when he asserts an opinion in the area of his expertise, i.e., that Greenberg is sufficiently notable to be included in Wikipedia.
Talk:Joshua Greenberg has more in common with an inelegant game of Go rather than an engaged and thoughtful exchange of views. My failure to be persuasive in that venue was frustrating. This non-standard explanation attempts to make a similar argument in different words. This stub article should be retained.
I agree and accept that articles about living people need to be held to the highest standards. It is plain to me that the votes to delete this article are only intended to further these high standards. In such a dispute, everyone wins -- even if the end result happens to be that this article will be deleted until a better foundation can be developed. --Tenmei (talk) 14:42, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Notability is not inherited. The fact that the book have been subject to critical review means that we can writen an article about the book. This does not automatically imply that the author is noteable. Taemyr (talk) 10:34, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
A book does not create itself. By the same logic, Einstein would not be notable. Only his papers would be, since he could not “inherit” the notability of his papers. C’mon!--Eric Yurken (talk) 13:43, 8 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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