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The result was redirect to List of Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah characters. Arguments for redirecting are more in line with policy than those presented by "Keep" !votes. (non-admin closure) Strikerforce^Talk 15:08, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jethalal Gada[edit]

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Not follow MOS:TVCAST or Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Writing_about_fiction#Characters_and_other_fictional_elements. Treats character a real person. Covered in List of Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah characters. Only one ureliable reference. Nizil (talk) 06:26, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Strong Keep - The subject is the central character^[1] in the longest running sitcom (over 10 years) of the indian television history and many mainstream sources have pages dedicated to him [1] , [2], [3] , [4], [5]... Also "Jethalal" has received widespread popularity over the years, has definitely become a household name and is regularly appearing on every show of this very popular sitcom since past 10 years^[2]. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 09:04, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please look at the aticle. Subject is treated as a real person in the article and there is lack of sources in the article because there are not many references discussing about the character in real world sense. We already cover this information in main sitcom aricle as well as in characters article. Why we need a separate article on a single character if we already have an article on characters of the sitcom? Please see MOS:TVCAST. Most references you listed above are in-universe information or provide little information about Jethalal character. Regards,-Nizil (talk)

"Why we need a separate article on a single character"? -- Because he is the central character appearing in each and every episode of the longest 10 years running most popular sitcom series of india .. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 14:42, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

He is a central character of a long-running show but look at the article which has only "in-universe" information. There are not much references on the "real world" information about the character. I am asking the reason for a separate article because we have already separate List article for characters. -Nizil (talk) 05:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ "Taarak Mehta's Jethalal Dilip Joshi shocked by Dr Haathi aka Kavi Kumar Azad's death". https://www.hindustantimes.com/. 2018-07-09. Retrieved 2018-08-28. ((cite news)): External link in |work= (help)
^ "Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah: It's been 10 years, 2500 episodes but Tapu Sena, Gokuldham members feel like it's just the beginning". Mumbai Mirror. Retrieved 2018-08-28.

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 11:50, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 11:50, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I agree with Nizil. -Gazal world (talk) 14:12, 28 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - FYI, there are separate pages for Myrcella Baratheon, Rickon Stark, Viserys Targaryen, etc of A Song of Ice and Fire. Deal with them first, if you don't always aim to reject ""Indian"" related pages.

I am aman goyal, WP:WAX does not help. Every article is judged on its own merit. It is not about Indian or other nationality issues.-Nizil (talk) 04:46, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

keep- Jethalal Gada article should be kept. It is a notable soap character's article....Hamim000000 (talk) 00:15, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hamim000000, we already have separate list article on characters. Why we need separate article on single character? Do we have enough real world informaion on him to have a separate article?-Nizil (talk) 05:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Well many mainstream media already covered Jethalal Gada. That's why I think the article should not be deleted. And one think I want to add that we created a separate article on tnkoc cast although we covered the cast in this article. So where is the problem to keep this article. He is the the central character of the show and appearing everyday in television. And all that. Rest is administrator's matter to delete this article or not. Thanks ...Hamim000000 (talk) 13:39, 30 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think there is not enough well referenced real-world information to have separated article for Jethalal Gada and what is covered is "in-universe". All in-universe information on him is also covered in characters article. So in my opinion, there is no need for separate article even if he is daily appearing TV character.-Nizil (talk) 04:37, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Apart from hundreds of popular videos, Jethalal and his popularity is very much covered in numerous sources [6] , [7] , [8] , [9] , [10] , [11].. and i can post many more coverage but info in my trail comments and this must convince you unless there is some competitive agenda IMHO, Thanks --Adamstraw99 (talk) 09:30, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Adamstraw99, Jethalal is a popular character but there is already an article on characters which covers information on him. The references you posted above has no detailed information on his characters apart from telling that it is popular and successful. This thing is already covered in the character article and thus no separate article is needed IMO. If we have references on role, development, Characterization, themes, critical reception of Jethalal; I would agree to have separate article from the characters article but I could not find any details. So the subject is better served by the character article alone. -Nizil (talk) 12:35, 31 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 15:00, 4 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America¹⁰⁰⁰ 13:00, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Delete and redirect to List of Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah characters.There's nothing close to a chunk of independent coverage about the character, which would have supposedly made a stand-alone article feasible.Apart from some original research and assertion(s) about the existence of other stuff, I fail to note any merit in the claims of keep !voters.∯WBG^converse 13:59, 11 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Merge and Redirect to Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah (or List of Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah characters). The current article is not based on WP:RS so I agree with Winged Blades of Godric that there is not much worth salvaging; hence WP:TNT. I did not expect we would have characters from shows, but I can see we do at least have some (e.g. Shaggy_Rogers). It's not clear to me there is enough secondary independent coverage to justify its own article. --David Tornheim (talk) 10:04, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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