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The result was delete, without prejudice to recreation if he ever goes pro. This was a difficult call. However, it came down to not finding any stories about him winning the MVP award mentioned by the sole keep. Winners of similar MVP awards in the American college ranks get a lot of coverage, and I saw nothing like that for this guy. Blueboy 96 16:14, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jake Allen (ice hockey)[edit]

Fails WP:ATHLETE and WP:HOCKEY notability standards Grsz ^talk 00:56, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Hockey-related deletion discussions. -- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:26, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Non-notable junior player who has yet to play professionally so fails WP:N. Has not won any major awards to otherwise indicate notability. Can be recreated when and if he plays professionally or otherwise achieves notability. -Djsasso (talk) 22:57, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. He was drafted pretty highly, but he currently has done nothing to warrant notability. Black ngold29 01:53, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: per above. He's at least a year away from playing professionally. RGTraynor 02:20, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. -- Gmatsuda (talk) 05:25, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. He must either be a professional or win a significant award in juniors to be significant. Thus far, he has done neither. Patken4 (talk) 22:38, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Comment He was named MVP at the 2008 U18 WC, isn't that major junior award? --Krm500 (talk) 23:50, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Depends if you consider the U18 a significant tournament. -Djsasso (talk) 02:07, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Based on his being named MVP of the 2008 IIHF World U18 Championships. Let's be honest, I hate it around draft day because so many not-notable players have articles created. But Jake Allen is a bit different for me. Although this tournament does not have the notability of the WJC or WC, it is the "3rd" major yearly IIHF men's championship and does have a heavy media following. I would typically say that playing in the tournament itself does not produce any notability, but the additional coverage that comes with winning an MVP award in any tournament does. If WP:HOCKEY states junior player notability as winning a major award, I argue that Jake Allen meets that requirement. You have to consider, this tournament features players from the top leagues (professional and amateur) in the world, not simply the CHL or NCAA. Yet, CHL and NCAA players can have articles created if they win a major award. Why should the top scholastic player (a major award in all CHL leagues) have an article, while the MVP of a major IIHF tournament does not? – Nurmsook! (talk) 05:19, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.