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The result of the debate was NO CONSENSUS, so keep. -Splash 22:27, 12 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Islam and the Jews: The Unfinished Battle[edit]

As a note to VfD voters, this book is ranked #20,069 in Books on Amazon.com Klonimus 23:51, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Non-notable propaganda work and probably a hoax, see Mark A. Gabriel. --Ian Pitchford 19:58, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - poorly written, nn, POV --LemonAndLime 21:03, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Ian Pitchford. Nandesuka 21:13, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep verfiable book by a notable author. Klonimus 23:29, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The notability of the author doesn't matter. According to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Precedents#Literature, a book that isn't well-known should be listed under its author. That would seem to be the case here. Aquillion 01:00, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Once again, a cleric from a prestigious Islamic seminary is both notable and relevent. Guy Montag 23:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep as per the above. - ulayiti (talk) (my RfA) 23:45, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Ian Pitchford. -- RyanFreisling @ 23:54, 4 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge with Mark A. Gabriel, as suggested under Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Precedents#Literature for non-notable books. Failing that, Delete. Aquillion 00:18, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep notable --Quasipalm 00:27, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, as per Guy Montag. Carioca 01:13, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Christopher Parham (talk) 05:35, 2005 September 5 (UTC)
• Delete per Ian Pitchford --Irishpunktom\^talk 10:55, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep: notable. --Germen (Talk | Contribs ) 12:37, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Meets notability threshhold. Briangotts (talk) 14:40, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Non-notable. --Anonymous editor 20:24, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. POV as many other acedemics and historians of contemporary Islam argue that the Israeli occupation is the root of nowadays conflict between Jews and Muslims. Svest 20:41, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
  • There seems to be some confusion here, the issue isn't the quality of Mark Gabriel's idea but an article describing his book and the ideas it contains. That is certainly encyclopedic. Klonimus 00:23, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Pass — Yes it's more religious agitprop tripe. Not sure if sufficiently notable. — RJH 21:14, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete non-notable claptrap.
• strong Keep Why would you delete a book , unless you were trying to censor its content?--CltFn 11:50, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Because it is an entirely non-notable book. Not every book merits an encyclopedia entry. In fact, most do not. Certainly not poorly written books that have received no mainstream attention and have influenced nobody. It should be listed under the author's name, that's it.--csloat 12:14, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, as per other users' comments. Babajobu 20:39, 6 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Not notable. - brenneman^(t)(c) 00:11, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep -- Karl Meier 21:13, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Refer to The Nazi Connection to Islamic Terrorism on a similar discussion.--JuanMuslim 07:28, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
• Keep - It's a real book, and no reason to delete as long as any statements it makes are referred to the book. --DanielCD 21:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• 'Merge to author's page or Keep. Most books only have and only deserve a cite on the author's page, especially ones that are part of pattern of books and aren't notable separtely. But it's far from completely non-notable.--Prosfilaes 22:07, 9 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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