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The result was Delete. Quarl (talk) 2007-02-27 05:05Z

Historic Counties Trust[edit]

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This article's inclusion on Wikipedia appears to act as little more beyond self promotion. It is also highly non-note worthy. It is in breach of WP:N and WP:NOT#MIRROR. Much of the content of the website to which this article refers is inaccurate also. On these grounds I nominate it for deletion. Jhamez84 21:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to a front for the Association of British Counties. The only name I can find associated with it is Rupert Barnes who was also (surprise surprise) vice-chairman Association of British Counties in 2006, while the postal address given in [1] is

28 Alfreda Road
Whitchurch
Cardiff
Glamorgan
CF14 2EH
United Kingdom
The exact same address as recorded by Nominet for the abcounties.co.uk domain.
Oh, and they are using ABC's map (without the requested acknowledgement, but then I suppose they don't need to!)
From the content it looks very much like a site set up by ABC to answer to some of the Wikipedia content, which presumably can cited be used as a "source".
Definitely not notable: only formed in 2005 and apart from their own site, Wikipedia and the charities commission/ companies house details, the only mention I can find is that they wrote to the Totteridge Residents Association.

Lozleader 23:19, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The Cardiff address listed above was, according to his online CV [2], that of Peter Boyce. He was named as chairman of the ABC in a former version of our ABC article [3] The information was later removed, as there was no independent evidence of the fact. That edit was made by User:Owain, who also created the HCT article. Lozleader 11:02, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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