- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Consensus is to Draftify article but Draft:Hibox already exists. When I posed the question which draft should remain there was a brief discussion that had an editor argue for keeping the existing draft article in Draft space and deleting this version. Liz Read! Talk! 23:37, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Seems all very dubious, both the business plan and the "independent" sources which look like press releases or paid-for articles. The only Google News source[1] is a press release, I find no articles about Hibox plus the names of the founder, the COO or the director. The revenue (for a brand-new company) and number of employees are unverifiable, despite the source attached to it. The headquarters are here said to be in Noida, India, but the sources claim headquarters in London, UK... It all doesn't add up, I don't know if it is a scam or just promotion but in any case doesn't belong on Wikipedia (yet). Fram (talk) 10:43, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Almost every necessary changes are made, please check again n update. Sparsh1220 (talk) 11:56, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- None of the issues are fixed though, remaining sources like this one are pure press release promo drivel, not reflecting any reality. "the entry of HIBOX opens up possibilities for collaboration between India and neighboring countries, which will boost regional economic integration.", "Its entry into the Indian market symbolizes India's integration into the global supply chain." Uh, it's a company selling mystery boxes. Or not even that, "HIBOX offers an extraordinary affiliate marketing platform that enables users to earn significant income simply by referring their friends, relatives and acquaintances" makes it sound like it is mostly a pyramid scheme. Fram (talk) 12:22, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Hey Fram, apologies from my side, I'm new at writing articles. I have again tried making necessary changes. Please guide me for the necessary changes, I will do it. Thanks for your support. Sparsh1220 (talk) 14:54, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Draftify: Article creator appears to be acting in good faith and is attempting to improve the article. I agree this is not ready for main space but I think this is appropriate for the draft space. There might be foreign language sources with more significant coverage, but I agree that the current sourcing does not meet GNG. voorts (talk/contributions) 22:43, 27 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or draftify. All the sources I've seen come across as promotional, based on the company's planned expansion. Think we need to be cautious in allowing this company publicity on Wikipedia at this stage of its operations. What track record is there? WP:TOOSOON#VERIFIABILITY. The infobox seems to say one thing and the text another. The Economic Times of India article is about the concept of mystery box shopping, not this company. The concept might have sufficient coverage in reliable sources to make a decent Wikipedia article, AFAICT this company doesn't. Rupples (talk) 16:12, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Times of India has also covered Hibox in the recent article stating how Hibox is gaining attention in India. Sparsh1220 (talk) 18:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: I closed this discussion as "Draftify" only to find out that Draft:Hibox already exists. So, either that draft is kept and this article is deleted, or I move this article to Draft space and the existing draft gets deleted.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:33, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I have added few more solid references along with the information. Sparsh1220 (talk) 05:49, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete this one. There's an additional sentence in the draft and a couple more references, but they don't change my rationale. Rupples (talk) 14:39, 2 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Times of India has also covered Hibox in the recent article stating how Hibox is gaining attention in India. Sparsh1220 (talk) 18:15, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The ToI reference you added talks about Mystery Box shopping in general. The only words about Hibox are quotes from connections, so not independent. Thus, the article doesn't count towards GNG/NCORP. Rupples (talk) 18:17, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- I suggest you to check once again as they have also added Hibox's corporate office in the article, so the article is about hibox only. Sparsh1220 (talk) 15:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- So ToI have added the very same picture to its article as you have just added to this article (which you state is your own work on Wikicommons and together with the Hibox logo are the only images listed under your username there). Both the Times of India and Economic Times articles are about mystery box shopping — adding a photo of Hibox's HQ doesn't change this. Rupples (talk) 19:42, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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