The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. If anyone wants to merge this article somewhere, I am willing to restore the article for that purpose. ‑Scottywong | prattle _ 03:18, 5 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Eruthu Paar Kodi[edit]

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I am going to withdraw my nomination and suggest that this be merged, as it has been suggested; the sources we find now do not support an article on its own but would in a merged article : Flag of Tamil Eelam. I will immeditely put that up for discussion in Articles for Merge. Staglit (talk) 16:25, 31 July 2014 (UTC) I cannot find any evidence of notability, also has little content. Staglit (talk) 15:45, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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It's a translation of the German version of the page. Little content? There's hundreds of articles with much less content. What is the problem with this article? Why on Earth should it be deleted?!Mr A (talk) 17:54, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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You should look at these two Wikipedia guidelines. I cannot find any sources that show that this song is notable, only a few audio files. The little Find Source Bar only helps by point; I find zero news articles, one book that shows one mention and nothing else. Staglit (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You haven't answered me. I've said there are countless articles with less content, and it is more or less a direct translation of the German page. It is sourced.Mr A (talk) 08:37, 3 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Read the news article. The song was used when the Tamil Eelam flag was raised. Mr A (talk) 17:41, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First: What on earth happened to the format of this discussion? Second, the sources that are listed in the article make absolutely no mention of the actual song, just that one must be created. This only supports my argument that this is not a notable subject.Staglit (talk) 20:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e decker ^talk 15:57, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - even if the Germans didn't. (Did they?) Not notable. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 19:29, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion was out of order and confusing; I moved some things around to try to make it easier to follow. If I put anything in the wrong place, my apologies. --Arxiloxos (talk) 20:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica¹⁰⁰⁰ 22:26, 18 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Can someone please give the Tamil script for the name of this song (I can't get it from the article because it is a scan, not text). I think a search of Tamil sources should be carried out before deleting this article, otherwise we are just adding to the systemic bias of Wikipedia. SpinningSpark 02:04, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - One reference link is dead. One reference link does not mention the subject at all. The other articles do not indicate that the subject is a "national" anthem. The article consists largely of language other than English.--Rpclod (talk) 05:49, 19 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment One additional source appears to be: Daily Mirror [1], --j⚛e decker ^talk 15:15, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Three of the four sources in the article make no mention of "Eruthu Paar Kodi" being Tamil Eelam national anthem. The fourth one is a dead link. We are losing time here. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 15:33, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I also connected the article to the German version. No additional sources worthy of mention there. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 15:40, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I don't see much that was in the article, I actually do believe the Daily Mirror article, which you appear to have missed, is a viable enough source as it goes, but isn't enough to sustain the article. I've added it to the article. I'd also like to echo SpinningSpark's request for the Tamil text. --j⚛e decker ^talk 15:49, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please also see the so-called "sources" at Flag of Tamil Eelam.--Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 16:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Joe, I've just spammed everyone in Category:Tamil Wikipedians who has edited at all recently. There's not all that many of them (even less now that I've cleaned out the ones who got in there accidentally) but hopefully one will supply that information. Request that this is held open just a little longer to give them a chance to reply. SpinningSpark 19:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have given Spinningspark the Tamil name on my talk page. I have asked some active tawp editors to provide some input. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 20:55, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the find sources link at the top with the phrase in Tamil. Maybe somebody can find something substantial, but nothing is leaping out at me on first look. SpinningSpark 22:11, 26 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have converted the scanned lyrics image to Tamil unicode and ISO 15919. I find many audio references and Tamil news references, which say it is national anthem and is being used as flag hoisting song. I find new English references from http://tamilyouth.ca/tamil-youth-life-a-danish-tamils-story/ --Neechalkaran (talk) 04:43, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Yes, I know, a third relist, but in deference to SpinningSpark's reasonable request for more time to obtain translations. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 22:04, 27 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

~~Keep~~ per sources at at the article. The IBNLive Reuters ref specifically states: "The Tigers currently have no anthem, usually falling back on the tune -Look the Flag is Rising which is played when their flag is raised". [2]. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 23:08, 27 July 2014 (UTC) This [3] is the Tamil version of the Daily Mirror piece which is already referenced at the article. [4] Provided as an aid for anyone trying to track down additional Tamil sources. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 19:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC) I'm going to change my mind and suggest that we merge this to Flag of Tamil Eelam. While the information is verifiable and significant, I just don't think there is enough to support a standalone article. This seems to be how most of the other language wikipedias handle it and the song article can always be broken out as a separate article in the future if more sources are found. 24.151.10.165 (talk) 15:42, 31 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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