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The result was no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. Ron Ritzman (talk) 23:55, 31 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

En Derin[edit]

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Unremarkable musician (fails WP:GNG). Lacks any reliable sourcing. Sources used are almost all self-sources (I removed reverbnation.com ones). Claims to fame appear to include participating in a radio call-in show with a psychic... Delicious carbuncle (talk) 19:47, 11 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 02:36, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: A few claims that were removed[1] from the article:

ReverbNation.com chart listing. (Issue: if these charts are useable for wikipedia, or not)
Cyprus TV and Radio appearances (Issue: only primary sourced[2]. Still looking for independent sourcing...)

Same issue with airplay received in USA, UK, and other countries - only found primary sources[3] so far... Thanks. Eclipsed (talk) (COI Declaration) 10:15, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

- Reverbnation.com is a promotional website for musicians and is clearly not appropriate as a source. "Chart listings" in this case does not reflect any real-world interest or sales, but it is a moot point since there is not even a way to confirm Derin's placement. Cut and paste snippets of press quotes on a promotional website are not primary sources. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 17:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:12, 18 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 03:30, 25 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.