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The result was no consensus. Xclamation point 16:30, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elliot McGucken[edit]

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User Readams/Ianuki seems to have a personal vendetta against McGucken, beginning with the action to delete McGucken's article and engaging in ad hominem attacks (against wikipedia rules) by calling McGucken a crackpot. McGucken has a Ph.D. in physics, high praise from prominent theoretical physicists and professional peers, and an award-winning dissertation from a prestigious institution. On Readam's bio it says he quit grad school, and yet he has the audacity to call McGucken a crackpot while hiding beyond an anonymous username. Is Readam the same person as Iainuki? Can IP addresses be checked? Readam/Ianuki consitently ignore the overabundance (50+) of reputable sources/references consiting of major print publications and univeristy websites supporting McGucken's original work, focusing on ad hominem, mean-spirited, and unfounded attacks.

Edit physics theory down but keep. Searched & retina phd dissertation research can be found on nsf, popular science website, etc. Other items can be foind at sxsw, new york times, wall street journal, businessweek.com, and other sites. Someone should edit physics theory down/delete physics and add refs tO other items. Keep parts with solid references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.173.67.85 (talk) 05:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

User Readams seems to have a personal vendetta against McGucken, beginning with the action to delete McGucken's article and engaging in ad hominem attacks (against wikipedia rules) by calling McGucken a crackpot. Is Readam the same person as Iainuki? Can IP addresses be checked? Readam consitently ignores the overabundance of reputable sources supporting McGucken's work, focusing on ad hominem, mean-spirited, and unfounded attacks.

The article is now well referenced and extremely well sourced. The majority of words in the article come from/are linked to independent and prominent sources including the new York times, the wall street journal, business week mag., popular science mag, IEEE engineering publications/journals, crc press, and major university's websites and newspapers. Words of support from the famous theoretical physicist john archibald wheeler are also included. Publications including the Raleigh news and observer, the triangle business journal, the charlotte observer, and the charlotte business journal are referenced as well as wall street giant john c. Bogle's book enough: true measures of money, business, and life, where mcgucken's novel class the hero's journey inarts entrepreneurship and technology is saluted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.135.84.209 (talk) 04:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Cirt (talk) 13:34, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dr. E, Congratulations! Your posts have accumulated enough mass that they have collapsed into their own separate universe. That is, your posts that are predominantly about your MDT theory have been moved to their own thread, here. Readers are welcome to find them there and discus them in whatever depth they choose. Please confine future postings about MDT to that forum rather than others such as this one to which it is not directly relevant. [1]

This is just the example where I happen to know something about the "reference" McGucken provided. There is good reason to suspect based on this example that the rest of this self-promotion has a similar level of scholarship. --Readams (talk) 16:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Yes--MDT was given its own forum and it is now displayed prominently on the front and center of the fqxi community page: http://www.fqxi.org/community, where it has been the #1 most active forum since its inclusion in March 09: "FORUM UPDATES High Energy Physics Dr. E's MDT Theory By DR. E (THE REAL MCCOY) Thanks Anthony!Of course I thank fqxi for the forum and the time and effort--and even the stated intent--but I gotta call 'em as I see 'em." New ideas take their time to be accepted by the physics community, and MDT's progress has been tremendous.

Above user Readams again engages in his nasty, mean-spirited, ad-hominem campaign against McGucken behind a mask of anominity. All we know about user readams is that he dropped out of grad school, and somehow user Readms thinks that this makes him a greater expert on physics and physicists than fqxi and the famous theoretical physicist John Archibald Wheeler http://www.fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/wheeler_recommendation_mcgucken_medium.jpg : "“More intellectual curiosity, versatility and yen for physics than Elliot McGucken’s I have never seen in any senior or graduate student. . . Originality, powerful motivation, and a can-do spirit make me think that McGucken is a top bet for graduate school in physics. . . I say this on the basis of close contacts with him over the past year and a half. . . I gave him as an independent task to figure out the time factor in the standard Schwarzchild expression around a sphericallysymmetric center of attraction. I gave him the proofs of my new general-audience, calculus-free book on general relativity, A Journey Into Gravity and Space Time. There the space part of the Schwarzchild geometric is worked out by purely geometric methods. “Can you, by poor-man’s reasoning, derive what I never have, the time part?” He could and did, and wrote it all up in a beautifully clear account. . . .his second junior paper . . .entitled Within a Context, was done with another advisor, and dealt with an entirely different part of physics, the Einstein-Rosen-Podolsky experiment and delayed choice experiments in general. . . this paper was so outstanding. . . I am absolutely delighted that this semester McGucken is doing a project with the cyclotron group on time reversal asymmetry. Electronics, machine-shop work and making equipment function are things in which he now revels. But he revels in Shakespeare, too. Acting the part of Prospero in the Tempest. . ." --http://www.fqxi.org/data/forum-attachments/wheeler_recommendation_mcgucken_medium.jpg

Above, in the very first post, user Readams begins his whole campaign to remove Mcgucken's extremely well-sourced and notable article by calling McGucken a "crackpot. (user Readams violates wikipedia's rules which forbid ad-hominem, libellious attacks. user Readams also violates wikipedia's spirit, which stands against nastiness and mean-spiritedness form behind masks of anominity) user Readams/Iainuki launches his mean-spirited campaign with "Not notable; appears to have been written by subject himself; subject is a physics crackpot on other forums. All the outside links are to sites controlled by Elliot McGucken except the patent link Readams (talk) 03:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)" According to user Readams, publications including The Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Popular Science, Business Week, CRC Press are not notable publications and are all contolled by mcgucken. According to user Readams, who is inspired by some sort of personal vendetta against mcgucken, the raleigh news and observer, the triangle business journal, electronics weekly, the charlotte business jounral, and the charlotte news and observer are not reputable sources. According to user Readams, the famous theortical physicist John Archibald Wheeler's words have no import and are not notable nor trustworthy. User Readams hatred for McGucken is blinding him and shaping his entire view of reality. According to user Readams world-class, peer-reviewed research and an award-winning dissertation (global Merrill Lynch Innovations Awards) on an artificial retina for the blind which appears in publications including Popular Science, Business Week, CRC Press, IEEE Engineering publications, is not at all notable.

The user Readams states "There is good reason to suspect based on this example that the rest of this self-promotion has a similar level of scholarship." Blinded by his personal vendetta and crusade against McGucken, user Readams ignores the existence of and denies the reputability of references and links that were thus added to a multitude of prestigious, well-known sources, after user Readams complained there were not enough references during the initiation of his personal campaign against McGucken's article. The references now include The New York Times (for jollyroger.com and arts entrepreneurship), the Wall Street Journal (for poetry and award-winning artificial retina chipset physics Ph.D. dissertation and jollyroger.com), Businessweek (artificial retina chipset physics Ph.D. dissertation and articles mentioning/pertaining to Arts Entrepreneurship), North Carolina State Univeristy (award-winnning artificial retina chipset physics Ph.D. dissertation), UNC Chapel Hill (list of teaching-award recipients/McGucken's physics teaching award), and text straight from a letter of recommendation from the famous theoretical physicist John Archibald Wheeler at the Foundational Questions Institute site. A reference from Popular Science was added which reports on McGucken's retina research, along with references from the National Science Foundation's Frontiers Magazine and IEEE publications, all related to McGucken's research/award-winning Ph.D. dissertation. Articles from the Triangle Business Journal and Charlotte Business Journal are referenced, as well as articles from Cincom and an article at the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation's website from their 2007 Thoughtbook print publication. References from oscom.org--International not-for-profit organisation dedicated to open source Content Management--are now included. Various univeristy websites/news-centers/newspapers are included referencing McGucken's work. Articles on McGucken's work from the Daily Tar Heel, Raleigh News and Observer, and Charlotte Observer are referenced. An interview with the Arts Entreprenuership Educator's network is referenced along with articles from the Carolina Entreprenuerial Initiative at UNC Chapel Hill and the Kenan Institute regarding McGucken's novel research and class in the realm of arts entreprneurship & technology. McGucken's ITCONVERSATIONS interview is referenced, noting that it has become an archive favorite on the internet's original podcast network. The Wall Street titan John C. Bogle's Enough: True Measures of Money, Business, and Life was referenced as Bogle salutes McGucken's work. And a new reference from Wake Forest Univeristy was just added: http://www.wfu.edu/creativity/projects_artsentrepreneur.htm "Elliot McGucken, trend setter in ‘artistic entrepreneurship’ and entrepreneurial applications with new internet technologies." More references exist. All of these are reputable sources and they all enhance the notable article and diverse array of accomplishments. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.194.198 (talk) 17:11, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note Readams/Iainuki--an anonymous sock puppet hiding behind anonymous usernames--constant use of the ad hominem-attacking words "diatribe" and "crackpot" and "Shameless self-promotion" and "sock puppet" while trying desperately to ignore, belittle, and refute McGucken's notable achievements that were reported on in independent, venerable publications including The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Popular Science, Business Week, along with the words of famous theoretical physicist John Archibald Wheeler and a plethora and abundance of words taken from, quoted, and referenced in a wide-range of solid resources ranging from major research institutions and universities to prestigious research journals and presseses to globally-respected print publications all reporting on notable, novel research and achievements. Readams's personal crusade against McGucken and private vendetta must redefine The Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, Popular Science, Business Week, IEEE, and CRC Press as non-notable publications and award-winning research on an artifical retina that is helping people see as non-notable. Hopefully Readams/Iainuki finds a more constructive way to spend their time on furthering acheivements of their own, rather than trying to cut others down via anonymous, ad-hominem attacks and personal crusades/vendettas which are a waste of everyone's valuable time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.106.194.198 (talk) 18:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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