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The result was deleted. --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 12:14, 1 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elias Grivoyannis[edit]

An obviously popular teaching professor, but not-notable by the standards of WP:PROF. Abductive (talk) 20:35, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Academics and educators-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 20:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The subject appears to have published several books. It would be helpful if prodders on these pages would do the citation searches themselves rather than leave them to others. Xxanthippe (talk) 00:17, 18 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]

I am aware that the subject published a study guide to one of his classes, and an in-house research monograph. I reject your presumption of bad faith nominations. Abductive (talk) 00:25, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No presumption of bad faith was made by me. My comment applies to all prodders. What were the results of your citation searches? They will help other editors to assess the AfD more effectively. Xxanthippe (talk) 02:09, 18 June 2009 (UTC).[reply]

I use the ((prod-nn)) template, which has links to those Google searches. Maybe the AfD template should include those links as well. Sorry for over-reacting. Abductive (talk) 03:24, 18 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete~~Delete~~. Seems to be a good professor, but I could not find enough to establish notability under WP:PROF. Does not seem to pass WP:BIO either. Citation impact seems to be low. ~~Zero hits on WorldCat~~. News coverage not particularly impressive.--Eric Yurken (talk) 01:19, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. I expanded the search on WorldCat and found out that he has one book, Current issues in monetary policy in the United States and Japan, currently in close to 250 major libraries worldwide according to WorldCat. Not bad, but taken alone it is still not enough for notability under WP:PROF criterion #1. I also did a Google search with the book’s title and the word “syllabus”, and got no hits, suggesting that the subject does not meet WP:PROF criterion #4 either. Changed my recommendation to a “weak delete” though, given the WorldCat holdings.

Delete, appears to fail WP:ACADEMIC and other standards. DreamGuy (talk) 15:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, –Juliancolton | ^Talk 00:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails general notability as well as WP:PROF. Drawn Some (talk) 01:25, 25 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Deletehis books are in almost no libraries. His textbook is self-published. DGG (talk) 03:42, 26 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can find no evidence in Google scholar of the heavy citations that would indicate a pass of WP:PROF #1, and he doesn't seem to pass any of the other criteria. His article reads a lot like a cv, and the relatively high number of positions and the adjunct nature of some of those positions leads me to suppose that he held them more as a teacher than as a researcher. The article notes some involvement in local politics but not at a level that would justify an article independently of his academic accomplishments. —David Eppstein (talk) 18:49, 30 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.