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The result was speedy delete. By User:Cullen328 as G4: Recreation of a page that was deleted per a deletion discussion, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trump resistance. Malinaccier (talk) 21:02, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Donald Trump resistance[edit]

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Topic already covered elsewhere ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 02:33, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 03:52, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy Delete - just deleted via AfD in June here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Trump resistance. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:41, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Delete the sources are questionable, the claims are even more questionable, and the grouping together of the subjects, and using sources that claim this skews "female" and then listing a male as the only named participant just shows sloppy writing.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:04, 2 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Except that there really is a Trump Resistance. It's a big deal, albeit a tad amorphous. So, while this is a paltry stub written by an SPA whose lone edit it is, I think that the topic merits an article. Editor who closed the previous article User:Drmies writes that User: NewsAndEventsGuy and I made some useful improvements to the previous article. @Drmies:, I wonder whether he or I wrote a lede, or organized the article in a way that is at all useful or that could be retrieved. As a start to turning this into a respectable start on an acceptable article. I have posted this on the Rescue list.E.M.Gregory (talk) 01:42, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Keep and continue working for now. It's true there was just an AfD, but EM Gregory came late and posted a list of sources specific to "Resistance" -- only 3 votes came in after him and 2 were Keep "per EM Gregory". There is some kind of campaign(s), organized or not, around the word "Resist". I get them in my mailbox! This is different from protesting. It's also used for fundraising for example. I'd like to see the article provide more context and backstory, where the "Resist" meme started and how it become institutionalized. It's exactly like the Stop Trump movement. -- GreenC 02:01, 3 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to fundraising, there's also a grassroots movement in which Democrats without prior political experience are lining in large numbers to try to flip districts currently held by Republicans. For example, eight Democrats have already lined up to challenge Barbara Comstock in 2018. This is being encouraged by organizations under the "Trump resistance" umbrella. 172.56.3.174 (talk) 16:44, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - Many problems as described above. It would be undue to redirect to Indivisible movement, but that seems like the logical target. Power~enwiki (talk) 05:14, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Nominator Comment - if the article is kept, at the very least the entirety of the current content should be deleted. It is obviously a pertinent topic, but I think it is covered well in articles like Efforts to impeach Donald Trump and Anti-Trump protests. Not to mention there is an article for every single controversy Trump was involved in. There is a lot of Trump coverage on WP. The Article for deletion makes it sound like Donald Trump resistance is a political party, and arbitrarily recites facts which may or may not be true. Just my opinion. I totally understand the keep, but this would be a complete re-write - and to accurately cover the issue would need a substantial article - I would say the readers would be better served perhaps by a list of anti-Trump sentiment articles. Poor wording but you understand. Maybe there already is something, like I said, the Trump article count is astronomical. ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:21, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further, look at the into to Anti-Trump protests (I just noticed this): "Anti-Trump movement" redirects here. For the conservative-led anti-Trump movement during his presidential campaign, see Never Trump movement. Further information: Timeline of protests against Donald Trump --‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 13:22, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

With regard to proposals to redirect to protests against Donald Trump, one might ask, was it just a protest or is it something more? 97.34.194.35 (talk) 00:20, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

El cid, el campeador, It is precisely because we have such an enormous number of article about opposition to Trump that we need an article on "Opposition to the Donald Trump Presidency", the "Anti-Trump movement," or whatever-we-decied-to-call-it; a "master" article, much as we have for Opposition to United States involvement in the Vietnam War, Abolitionism and other big topics. (After giving this some thought, I think that an good aritcle on "The Trump Resistance", focused on the further left segment of the American left that favors the word "resistance" could be written.) I, however, am not presently inclined to write such articles. I VERY MUCH LIKE your suggestion that we start a list to collect this explosion of articles, this embarras des richesses.. If a capable editor steps forward to revise and make this into a good article, or, atl least, a good enough article, I will support keeping. I do, obviously, agree that it cannot be kept in the condition in which it stands.E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:33, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

For example, I just created a short, focal article - a stub - on a new movement that is getting [[WP:SIGCO}, Antifa (U.S.). It doesn't exactly fit Protests against Donald Trump, and I wished that I had an article to link "Trump resistance" to when I wrote the lede.E.M.Gregory (talk) 00:42, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see the issue with the absence of such an article. You can link to Protests against Donald Trump which pretty much aggregates all protest movements with their name/issue-of-the-week titles. — JFG ^talk 07:22, 8 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I made a good run at trying to make an incomplete list of Trump controversies, but truthfully it became too much haha. But, look here [[Category:Donald Trump controversies]]. It is a pretty good collection of relevant controversies, protests, resistance, etc. Obviously a category is not as good as an article, but it can be considered the 'center' of the issue. I will tag your new article with one of the sub-cats. ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ^ᐐT₳LKᐬ 19:53, 9 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Pure WP:SYNTH. May redirect the title to Protests against Donald Trump, like Trump resistance was. — JFG ^talk 02:59, 6 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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