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The result was Delete.   jj137 ^♠ 23:38, 24 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Differences between Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy[edit]

Differences between Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)

an unreferenced OR essay, rather than an encyclopediatic article. The contents of the Democratic Socialism article clearly illustrate the problems of drawing a npov distinction between Democratic Socialism and Social Democracy. Soman (talk) 10:53, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete uncited, redundant to the parent articles, and of a highly suspect level of original research in essay form. Strongly encourage the article author to contribute to the parent articles on DS and SD, as s/he obviously has an interest in the subjects and good writing skills. -Markeer 13:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Note:WikiProject Politics has been informed of this ongoing discussion. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 13:50, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep the article is valuable as makes clear several similarities and differences between the two movements/ideologies. Remember that at one point in history democratic socialism and social democracy were interchangeable. But this is no longer the case and so this article is necessary, although it needs some work. (Demigod Ron (talk) 18:17, 19 December 2007 (UTC))[reply]
  • Comment, wikipedia is not the place to launch a hypothesis. You might, for whatever purpose, want to keep the two concepts separate and push for the position that 'democratic socialism' would constitute a separate political tendency of its own. In reality that is not the case. --Soman (talk) 20:22, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I though it was interesting and informative. Lobojo (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • The project's goal is to write an accurate encyclopaedia, in contrast, not to contain content that you as a reader cannot check and that isn't actually a part of the general corpus of human knowledge, no matter how interesting you may find that content to be. Please address the issues of verifiability and original research, and show that the article is verifiable and not original research by pointing to sources that cover this subject. Your rationale as given holds no water at all. Uncle G (talk) 23:31, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per Markeer - totally unsourced and OR. Torc2 (talk) 23:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, original research. Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 03:07, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. I see no references in the article. It appears to be an OR essay. Majoreditor (talk) 04:57, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment one ref has now been added, but that one only provides a basic definition to the term 'Social Democracy'. However, 1) this does not provide any further point towards any clear differentation between two separate concepts, and 2) 'Social Democracy' isn't really the concept questioned, its a relatively well defined political term. 'Democratic Socialism' on the other hand, as displayed by the Democratic socialism article, is extremly difficult to find a clear delimitation to. Moreover, the point initially made that "The terms democratic socialism and social democracy have often been used interchangeably, and many have considered them synonymous until recently. Now the term social democracy refers to an ideology that is more centrist and supports a broadly capitalist system, with some social reforms (such as the welfare state), intended to make it more equitable and humane.", doesn't really go consistent with a source clarifying that that social democracy as we know it today emerged at the time of World War One. --Soman (talk) 22:24, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Essay, not an encyclopedical explanation. Generally, WP should avoid "differences between X and Y" articles - such an information belongs into respective articles. Pavel Vozenilek (talk) 11:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.