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The result was Keep. Rlevse 02:39, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Devil in fiction[edit]

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• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Lists-related deletions. -- Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 04:59, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - indiscriminate list and directory seeking to capture every appearance of the Devil in fiction, without providing any context as to the importance of that appearance either within the fiction or in the real world. Otto4711 03:03, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete Loose association. Could be categorised if required. A list is meant to have some sort meaningful entry data, not just a list of names, otherwise it is merely a category listing.--Dacium 06:24, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, the Devil has appearead in fiction for thousands of years, and his appearances through the years could be used as a source to understanding religion and literature. The article could have been something better than a list, though. 96T 16:23, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep with some massive reworking of the article. As it stands it reads more like a list of movies/songs/etc that feature the Devil, this should probably be pared down to those that are specifically about the Devil or feature him in a prominent fashion, not those that merely mention him. Additional information from someone knowledgable on the subject should be added to address the topic of the Devil in fiction itself so that this is something more than a mere list. The topic of the Devil in fiction itself is significant enough to warrant an article. Arkyan 18:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • On second thought, I just realized there is an excellent article at Satan in popular culture that covers the subject in detail. If someone wants to preserve this article as a list of references to the Devil in the media, in a different article with a different name, that'd be fine, but I now think the best way to handle this one would be a simple redirect to the above. Arkyan 18:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Satan in popular culture per Arkyan. A merge would be desirable, but just copy-pasting the content into Satan in popular culture is not (it would overwhelm the latter without adding much useful information). -- Black Falcon 21:09, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge/Redirect into Satan in popular culture. -- Stbalbach 04:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Cleanup and Merge as above. In any case, strong remove film list category. Hoverfish Talk 07:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep with possible merge in future. (Due to Abrahamic POV in title of Satan in popular culture.) Devil does not equal Satan. - WeniWidiWiki 17:45, 24 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep with possible merge, per reasons given by WeniWidiWiki above. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 18:06, 25 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Note that WeniWidiWiki does not actually ofer any reasons to keep, only a reason not to merge. Otto4711 02:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• True. I was agreeing with WeniWidiWiki's reason not to merge. I should have said that I was agreeing with everyone else's reasons to keep. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 04:18, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete This article would be interesting if it wasn't in list format like it is now. Usedup 02:03, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment interesting or not interesting has nothing to do with Wikipedia policy on whether an article should exist or not. Instead, this right to exist or not is based on ideas such as WP:N. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 04:56, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You do realize I said "delete" Usedup 07:29, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes I did. Mermaid from the Baltic Sea 00:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - very notable, easy to find online sources. Do not merge, but would make good sister article to Satan in pop culture article. Meets WP:LIST - Information and Navigation. Featuring the devil in fiction is sufficient commonality. Rename to "List of..." - Peregrine Fisher 06:34, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, and I'll point satan isn't the same as a devil. Not a pov, just simply different. Mathmo ^Talk 10:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Keep well-done list of "The devil in literature." However, consider merging material such as "the devil in music" into the "devil in popular culture" article as it does not seem appropriate here. Crypticfirefly 06:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep merging some to Satan in popular culture, some to Satan in literature and possibly keeping anything that's left over. --Richard 22:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yuh, so I was bold and went ahead and did what I proposed. Check it out. Now all that's left is to decide what to do with this article title. I say Redirect it to Satan in literature. --Richard 22:23, 1 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.