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The result was Delete. --VS ^talk 22:43, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chaar[edit]

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This article establishes no notability (WP:FICTION) through reliable sourcing (WP:RS) and as such is just an in-universe plot repetition (WP:WAF), and should be deleted. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 22:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete, no evidence of real-world notability. --Stormie (talk) 01:15, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep My goodness! How popular does a topic have to be to survive around here? Chaar is the Decepticon base of operations in Season 3 and 4 of The Transformers (TV series) and, as such, is the most notable fictional planet in the Transformers universe after Cybertron. Episodes featuring Chaar were viewed by millions of people in dozens of countries and languages. I support the deletion of articles with limited or primarily local appeal, but The Transformers is clearly notable on an international scale. I dread to think how many articles will be left if every article this notable is deleted! DOSGuy (talk) 08:51, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fame and popularity are not criteria for Wikipedia, and as such your argument is fundamentally flawed. As Wikipedia:Notability explains, what are required are multiple published works from reliable and independent sources that document the subject in depth. This is what the nominator has stated in the nomination does not exist. Your flawed argument does not disprove xyr assertion. To disprove xyr assertion, simply cite some reliable and independent sources that document this subject in depth, to demonstrate that it is possible to write a verifiable and neutral article free from original research on this topic. Uncle G (talk) 16:28, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete We don't need an article on 'fictional planet' in the Transformers series! Masterpiece2000 (talk) 10:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"I don't like it" isn't the best of all possible arguments :-) Hobit (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why not? The fictional planets in every other popular series have articles. It deserves an article if it is a topic of broad interest, which the Transformers certainly have. DOSGuy (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Merge to an article about Transformers planets. JIP | Talk 11:17, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Marge, but I've no idea where. Hobit (talk) 14:37, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete this, it has no function in an encyclopedia. And btw: it's only in-universe so there is nothing to merge as far as I can see. Greswik (talk) 19:11, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete or redirect to the main article. JJL (talk) 22:06, 11 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: WikiProject Transformers has been informed of this ongoing discussion. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 15:00, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.