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The result was delete, but without prejudice to recreation once notability requirements are met. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 02:59, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Catharsis (band)[edit]

nn-band? couldn't find anything on allmusic, only reference for the article is a link to their label...so seems to fail WP:MUSIC-- Syrthiss 12:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached
Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Kungfu Adam ^(talk) 15:36, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. per nom.--Kungfu Adam ^(talk) 15:39, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I can't find any evidence of notability - there's nothing from which to construct an article. Related pages seem to be Requiem (band), Ümlaut and The Spectacle; none of which seem to have any sources either. Could they be included in this nom? Trebor 16:32, 2 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Weak Keep I know from personal experience that Catharsis was a well-known band in the East Coast and North Carolina hardcore scenes around 2000. I can't find any articles online to verify it--mostly because the hardcore scene has tended to be focused around print publications/fanzines until very recently. I suppose "Scout's Honor" is insufficient?--Velvet elvis81 07:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately so. The burden is on the "keep" !voters to provide the sources as well; it can't be kept unless they're found. Trebor 15:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I know, it was wishful thinking more than anything. I dug around to see what I could find to help out here but, admittedly, it's not much. The stuff on the homepage linked from the article has some stuff: the interviews archived here [1] indicate headlining overseas tour(s?). The fliers [2] show U.S., Canadian, and European shows. I think the fact that they could do multiple trips to Europe and Canada and that at least one flyer has them playing with the unquestionably notable Converge at least gives evidence of notability within a scene. Other than that, though, the info's limited to myspace tribute pages, random album reviews, and the occasional post on an mp3 blog. I do think it's important to keep in mind, though, that although specific music scenes certainly exist and can be notable it's difficult to document them when they are already within a niche market like hardcore punk. Perhaps some of this information could be moved to an expanded North Carolina hardcore.--Velvet elvis81 23:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there is a part of WP:MUSIC that says if they are well covered in their genre then that handles the notability (since there are several genres that don't get much coverage from mainstream media). But I agree that if we end up with a delete then the info could be used to help expand NC hardcore. Syrthiss 13:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Weak delete. Seems well-known locally, but I can't sya it passes WP:MUSIC. --Wizardman 01:17, 10 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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