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The result was delete‎. Insufficient support to turn this article into a redirect. ✗plicit 13:58, 2 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bu Athla[edit]

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Unreferenced since 2007, no Arabic version of the name that can be identified so no way of checking Arabic sources (cf. particularly there being many different ways of Romanising Arabic), no AR wiki page, nothing found in my WP:BEFORE except mirrors of this page. The co-ordinates given in the article are open desert. How did this article survive for so long like this? I can only assume lots of people think that "populated places" just cannot be deleted regardless of issues because of WP:GEOLAND. Based on the creator, the article was likely mass-created algorithmically based on GEOnet Names Server data, which is unreliable. FOARP (talk) 10:33, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Libya-related deletion discussions. FOARP (talk) 10:33, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Geography-related deletion discussions. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:15, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete although it exists. It’s a well. See [1]. Mccapra (talk) 12:06, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
After checking, the only thing that happened at the well was fighting during a 1929 battle in the Second Italo-Senussi War that mainly took place in nearby Jikharra. The battle itself doesn't have an article, although I could find another link talking about it here. Don't think there is any notability to be found there. Chaotic Enby (talk) 19:25, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Same as the well above, just delete it. I can't find sources for the place. Oaktree b (talk) 19:30, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
or redirect to the Second Italo Senussi War article I suppose? Oaktree b (talk) 19:31, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I'm wondering if the battle itself could be notable. I see no articles about that war's military campaigns, which is a bit unusual? I'd have expected a conflict of this magnitude to have more than a single "main" article, but this specific battle isn't really sourced, so not very sure about its notability. Redirects are cheap, and the war's article could be expanded, but given how poorly sourced (and relatively irrelevant) the well is I don't even know if a redirect might be useful rather than a plain delete. Chaotic Enby (talk) 19:43, 25 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I looked for sources on the battle but found nothing. The word “battle” is probably doing a lot of work here. The one source I found says 241 Libyans were killed there. That was an average morning’s work for the Italians in Libya. Anyway the source says that the 2020 commemoration took place in Jikharra, the nearby town, so I’ll add the fighting to the article on that town and then we can redirect if that’s preferable to deleting. Mccapra (talk) 07:17, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

done. Mccapra (talk) 07:27, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The fighting took place at Jikarra and not at the Bu Athla well? Can't read the link (which is anyway a blog of some kind). Eyeballing it on the map the Bu Athla well is about 40 klicks away from Jikarra so the locations are not closely associated. Redirects are cheap, but not simply random, so I don't see the point here. FOARP (talk) 15:49, 27 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The source is a Libyan online newspaper. It says that there was a commemoration in the town of Jikharra of the battle of Al-Koz and Bu Athla “which took place in the Jikharra region.” I.e. the battle was out in the desert somewhere in the environs and Jikharra is the most appropriate place to commemorate it. So I don’t think it’s random. Mccapra (talk) 08:17, 1 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Delete unlikely to ever warrant a discrete article, so delete and redirect per Mccapra. SN54129 14:13, 26 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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