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The result was delete. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 00:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Brigadier General Edward Morton CBE[edit]

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There's no doubt that a general and a recipient of a high state decoration would have been a notable subject for an encyclopedic article. However, this article is completely unreferenced, and a Google search for either "General Edward Morton" or "Edward Morton, CBE" returned nothing relevant. Equally suspect is the claim that "not a great deal is currently known about him or what he achieved"; if he served as a general in World War I and died in 1948, the records should be all over the place. - Mike Rosoft (talk) 19:33, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Interesting. By searching for '"Edward Morton" "Brigadier General"' I came across this. Close, but probably not the same person; he held the same rank, but served in World War II rather than World War I and Boer War; the year of death is also different. (No mention of the Order of the British Empire, either.) - Mike Rosoft (talk) 19:57, 4 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's not the same person. The link is for Edward Morton Hudgins. CBS527^Talk 22:57, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Speedy delete as a likely hoax. No trace of a First World War general? Extremely dubious. Also, Macafee warns me against Rosoft's link. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:36, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• He was a major, made a temporary brigadier general in 1915 for some unspecified length of time, and a major and battalion lieutenant colonel in 1919, according to Peter James' sources. Doesn't satisfy GNG and very, very borderline on the WP:SOLDIER requirements. Not sure about the CBE satisfying notability. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:02, 10 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as a probable hoax or exaggerated piece of family history. The CBE award should be listed at https://www.thegazette.co.uk/awards-and-accreditation but I can't find it using various combinations of names rank and date. Note that "Edward Morton" in quotes is not a useful search term because such notices usually include middle names. 86.17.222.157 (talk) 10:56, 5 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete - Written by a family member whose only contributions to Wikipedia involve this individual, and completely reliant on his family knowledge. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 09:24, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]
• Some records exist (National Archive covers 1894 to the start of 1908, London Gazette 29381 for "temporary Brigadier General" in 1915 and 31377 for CBE in 1919 Birthday Honours, same name and regiment). The second and third seem to be the same person, but unfortunately I can't find references that link these to the first - it's likely that they exist but not online yet. Peter James (talk) 23:39, 9 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete While WP:SOLDIER appears to be met, it can't be verified because the GNG isn't met. Exemplo347 (talk) 23:35, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete - Difficult to find references to pass WP:GNG CBS527^Talk 23:11, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.