The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. The discussion established that at the time being reliable sources, with a possible exception of one, have not been found, and the article thus the article fails WP:N. The majority of voters supported deletion. The article can be restored if more reliable source have been found.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:04, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Paul[edit]

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Deprodded by IP without comment. Of the two sources, one is a PR piece, and the other may be reliable. So far, I've found nothing else: the awards she's won aren't notable, her label is redlinked, and she has no other signs of meeting WP:NMUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 00:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Paul has been on three sound tracks for motion pictures. She is also been on Europe's top 40 country charts. Her songs are on rotation on country radio around the world. Bonnie Paul has co written with grammy award winner Randy Travis and Edward Tree from the Spencer Davis Group. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:330B:E00:DA30:62FF:FE57:3CA7 (talk) 01:29, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Working with someone else notable doesn't transfer notability. I once bought Trent Tomlinson a beer, does that make me notable? The Europe country charts are not on WP:GOODCHARTS -- their positions are unverifiable as they don't archive 'em. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 01:33, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:26, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:27, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 02:27, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I see that Bonnie Paul has done three sound tracks for motion pictures, I see that she has also been on music row radio rotation for her song Calm Before the storm ,produced and written by Randy Travis .I see that Toby Keith has charted on Hotdisc Europe and many country artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:330B:E00:DA30:62FF:FE57:3CA7 (talk) 03:06, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

What soundtracks has she done? I can't verify any of them. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 10:21, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Go on IMDB Slapstick of another kind soundtrack Rand Bishop ,Bonnie Paul http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088134/soundtrack — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:330B:E00:DA30:62FF:FE57:3CA7 (talk) 21:51, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L Faraone 02:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Paul also sang the title song for the Huck and the king of Hearts ,I have seen her perform at the world famous Tootsies in Nashville ,I have seen her perform with Johnny Rodriquez in Kentucky .....Bonnie Paul is a true country artist

"Good" isn't the same as notable. I know lots of good artists who aren't notable. And rubbing shoulders with someone famous is not notability. Again, I worked a booth CMA Music Fest in 2010 with Roughstock.com, and met a lot of singers. I bought Trent Tomlinson a beer. That doesn't make me notable. Please read WP:NMUSIC. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 04:35, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shes better then then good she is amazing! Shes been around long time and she has been on many motion picture soundtracks. Bonnie Paul wrote country songs with Randy Travis ,so yes that makes her notable. And shes has toured with Johnny Rodriquez. Ten pound Hammer your very rude , Have you written any songs with any great country stars as Bonnie Paul has? Ten pound hammer do you have any soundtracks with your voice on them, Bonnie Paul has been on music row ration have you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:330B:E00:DA30:62FF:FE57:3CA7 (talk) 16:02, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Paul is notable, she has been born into a show business family , so she does not have to rub shoulders with anyone like you have to. Ten pound hammer your claim to fame is CMA Music Fest booth, see why you have to pick on Bonnie Paul she is a seasoned country artist with notable back round with talent and heart and she has been on magazines across the world, movie soundtracks,radio rotation across the world. Why don't you get a real job instead of writing on a computer about a country artist that has been around a long time with notable back round unlike you Ten pound hammer. Bonnie Paul is a verified twitter notable country artist, Ten pound hammer are you? Bonnie Paul has her music video's on www.gactv.com on their video stream that makes her a notable country artist. 2602:306:330B:E00:DA30:62FF:FE57:3CA7 (talk)

I'm not picking on her. I'm saying that she doesn't seem to meet WP:NMUSIC. There are lots of good artists who don't meet the cut for Wikipedia articles. Where are the secondary sources? Are there any reviews of her music out there by professional reviewers? Any in-depth news articles about her and her music? So far, I'm seeing none of that. And I would prefer that you not attack me — I happen to have two jobs, thank you very much. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 20:08, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - "verified twitter notable country artist"; that's a new one! I don't think Twitter has notability guidelines like we do, but if it did and she passed, that wouldn't have an impact here. I'm sure she's a lovely person and she sings lovely songs, but until she has been the subject of significant coverage in multiple reliable sources or until she passes alternate criteria at WP:NMUSIC, I'm afraid she doesn't meet our criteria for inclusion. Working with others doesn't help either.

To the anonymous user - I would strongly suggest you read a couple of our guidelines before posting here. You might like to start with WP:CIV, WP:NPA and WP:AGF, then move on to WP:N and WP:V. Stalwart111 22:29, 28 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Not notable as a musician, does not meet any of the criteria in WP:NMUSICBIO. FurrySings (talk) 16:41, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you followed her career you would see that she is a notable musician not only a singer but an actress who has done numerous motion pictures. 2602:306:330B:E00:DA30:62FF:FE57:3CA7 (talk)

And if you followed this discussion you would see that we have explained (several times) the manner in which those claims can be substantiated. Can you provide reliable sources (see WP:RS) to verify (see WP:V) those claims or significant coverage (see WP:SIGCOV) enough to substantiate notability (see WP:N)? Wikipedia has fairly clear guidelines for inclusion and multiple people here have suggested the subject doesn't meet those guidelines. Your admiration for her does not make her notable and those things you have claimed that might make her notable, haven't be backed up by reliable sources. Provide us with a couple of links to stories about her in the news or details of her supposed movie roles and it'll be a different story. Stalwart111 22:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have you looked at her Imdb tells you all her movies ,She also even starred in a Julian Barry Play with Carmen Argenziano, [1] Here is another site [2] [3] hotdisc june 2013 Up Country

Please be careful - you just posted that note in the middle of a signature with absolutely no formatting. I've rescued it for you. On IMDB, please have a read of this note. Besides which, being an extra in a bunch of films does not make a person notable here. Stalwart111 04:45, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Stalwart111 Bonnie Paul has never been an extra in any of her movie, in fact she is the star of Final Song , Bonnie Paul starred in the Tv episode of Fox "Trapper John MD", Gabe Kaplan "Lewis And Clark"so she is not an extra player — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.48.176.224 (talk) 18:16, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Paul is in June Issue of Up Country magazine UK — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.48.176.224 (talk) 18:19, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know if she was ever an extra but many of her roles definitely do seem very minor ones, e.g. 'Crying Girl (uncredited)', 'Actress at Party', 'Pretty Girl', 'Astonville Bank Teller', 'Secretary', 'Little Girl's Mother', 'Waitress', and I stopped at 1996. (Occasionally a character without a name is quite significant but this is fairly rare.) Note that even for some of the roles where she at least has a name like The Legend of Simon Conjurer, I'm not sure here role was particularly significant. And for other's e.g. Final Song that you mentioned I'm not sure the movie itself is even notable. Really I think you're going to have trouble making the case she's notable under the subject specific guidelines for entertainers per WP:ACTOR just as it sounds like it is for a musician so I recommend you concentrate on the GNG again. I don't have access to Upcountry Magazine and have strong doubts it's consider a reliable source but even if it is, this page [4] suggests to me whatever coverage there is there isn't significant since her name isn't mentioned. And even if her coverage is significant and it's a RS, it's only one source. Nil Einne (talk) 19:51, 30 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Bonnie Paul is featured in UP UK magazine for her current release "First Love" world wide look and you will find . Bonnie Paul has been on rotation on music row country charts for "Calm Before the Storm" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:330B:E00:DA30:62FF:FE57:3CA7 (talk) 17:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Delete fails notability. Also WP:O-problems.Jeff5102 (talk) 19:12, 3 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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