The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Wizardman 17:41, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bahasa[edit]

An article about a word, which seems to exist primarily to tell people to use "correct grammar". Wikipedia is not a dictionary nor a usage guide. Ptcamn (talk) 14:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, it's a WP:DICDEF, and possibly a personal bugbear of the author (although I know how he feels... if one more person at a shop asks me to enter my "PIN Number" when I'm paying by Debit Card, I think I shall scream!) -- JediLofty ^User_Talk 14:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Disgree with the proposal it is actually cultural usage which has some issues beyond the summary above.

Disgree with the current process - this xfd should be clearly placed at both the Wikipedia Project Indonesia and Wikipedia Project Malaysia noticeboards - failure to do so will makes this xfd a classic notice in a closed filing cabinet at the bottom of the stairs behind a door marked do not feed the leopard - there is not sign that the proposer or the other editor to comment here has either any knowledge of the subject or the subject area - if they do so my apologies - at least make sure that the issue goes to :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indonesia and :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Malaysia - to make this proposal one which the relevant projects could actually see what is going on here Satu Suro 15:34, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions. —-- JediLofty ^User_Talk 15:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Malaysia-related deletion discussions. —-- JediLofty ^User_Talk 15:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete — it's just a dictionary definition. The "cultural context" argued above amounts to other uses of it which go beyond the strictly literal; any standard full dictionary would include these. An encyclopedia would not. --Haemo (talk) 20:30, 20 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Bahasa language.--Lenticel ^(talk) 02:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Merge with Bahasa language, I think the content in Bahasa is worth keeping and expands on the Bahasa language is redundant: Bahasa is the Malay word for "language" introduction to Bahasa language. And to be honest the merged article should probablty live at Bahasa not Bahasa language. --Stormie (talk) 03:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment' Bahasa language should not exist - it is tautologous and a misuse of the words from both languages potentially makes wikipedia look like a blog like scrapbook not an online encylopedia - if the delete goes ahead - some consideration will have to be made for the re-naming of the absurdly named Bahasa language disambiguation page - and a new RS V and N compliant article that deals with common misunderstandings and usages of the words and their context that moves beyond the issues raised by the Afd nominater and supporters - the article might be removed but the issue remains Satu Suro 04:28, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Delete -as per above. Why is there an article about one word in a foreign language in English Wikipedia? Davidelit (talk) 13:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Very reluctant delete - as much as it annoys me when the smugly ignorant refer to Indonesian as "Bahasa" (which this page explains), there's not much in wikipedia policy that appears to support this page's existence. My heart says "keep", head says "delete" - i can't be seen on wikipedia to have my emotions win over my reason. --Merbabu (talk) 13:47, 25 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Indonesian language. We could possibly have a section on the etymology of the term Bahasa.-Ravichandar _{My coffee shop} 03:58, 29 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.