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The result was Delete. SNOW closing due to BLP concerns. --MZMcBride (talk) 09:46, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Phillip Freeman[edit]

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I have number of problems with this article

1. It is substantially a current news report, and WP:NOTNEWS
2. It is an article about someone famous only for an alleged crime WP:BLP1E
3. It is far too early to claim this has any enduring significance see WP:RECENT.
4. Do we really want to record a biography on someone who has been "charged" (but not convicted or even tried) with "allegedly" doing something, and is apparently in an "acute psychiatric state"?? Is that what we do?

If anyone can think of grounds to speedy here, I'd be even happier. Scott Mac (Doc) 14:28, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete: Unfortunately, I can't see any scope for speedy deletion but I agree that we have to get rid of this. Events of this type are tragic but they are not uncommon. They get RS coverage as news but they are not encyclopaedic topics. We no more need an article about this than we need an article about every individual crime or accident of other types. Even more problematic, the case has not gone to trial and we don't know the true facts. This sort of speculative coverage could even be seen as prejudicial to a future trial. --DanielRigal (talk) 14:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete:WP:NOT#NEWS clearly applies.—Kww(talk) 14:59, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Actually, I can find it in a speedy deletion criteria. As an attack article which was like that from the start and doesn't cite any sources, it fits under ((db-attack)).Spencer Divonn'io the Glorious 16:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
  • Nope. http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24982142-661,00.html is listed in the article as a source, and clearly backs the essence of the story. That takes it out of "attack" land.—Kww(talk) 16:26, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, for the excellent reasons provided both by the nom and by DanielRigal. I'm not even sure that this should get a single sentence in West Gate Bridge, but as of this writing, this incident is getting a whole paragraph over there. Let's be an encyclopedia, folks. Unschool 17:36, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:47, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions. -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:48, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong delete - per WP:BLP1E. If there must be an article on the subject, let it be about the incident not the alleged perpetrator, although I'm not convinced of that either. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mattinbgn (talk • contribs)
• Delete in accordance with the excellent summary provided by the nominator. WWGB (talk) 23:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete unless this should in future become a significant controversy. I do not apply NOT NEWS broadly, but this It is the sort of momentary news item that NOT NEWS was properly intended to eliminate. An article that gives the time of the event to the minute, but not the day or the month or the year, is hardly encyclopedic.DGG (talk) 02:56, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep I created the page and I think it deserves a page but in view of almost everyone else view, I think a good solution would be to delete it now and see if it does become a significant controversy to reinstate it. Note the following person in the wiki for far less reason. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassie_Bernall Reargun (talk) 03:54, 2 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete, a classic case of WP:BLP1E. Lankiveil ^{(speak to me)} 08:38, 2 February 2009 (UTC).[reply]

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