- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was no consensus. Liz Read! Talk! 23:23, 31 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Ankh Micholi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
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Fails NFILM. No review found online. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 07:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and India. 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 07:01, 3 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for taking the time to review this article. To establish the noteworthiness of the film, I have expanded the lead section (and rearranged a few sentences) to include discussion of the film’s prominence because of its prolific director (Ravidra Dave), the film’s highly-paid lead actress (Mala Sinha) and also the film’s music director (Chitragupt). I have also increased the cites for the article. Scholar165 (talk) 22:28, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Opposing deletion (as at the very very least a redirect to the director's page is in my view warranted.) But the infos are verifiable and this is a 1962 film with very notable cast and director, which contributes to the film's notoriety (WP:INHERIT does not apply to this statement, thank you in advance for not mentioning it).
So I would rather like a plain keep as the film mightseems to meet the following criterion: "the film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of their career." (WP:NFILM) if we can consider it is a major part of Ravindra Dave's and Male Sinha's career, but this very point would need to be established more clearly maybe.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 11:02, 3 December 2023 (UTC) (changed to plain keep in the light of the improvements made by Scholar165)[reply]
- Thank you for your useful comments. As per your suggestion toward the end of your comments, I have expanded the lead section and rearranged a few sentences to explain the noteworthiness of the film because of its prolific director (Ravidra Dave), the film’s highly-paid lead actress (Mala Sinha) and also the film’s music director (Chitragupt). Scholar165 (talk) 22:19, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you@Scholar165: and thank you for the improvements made to the page. I changed my !vote to full Keep. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:54, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment: @User:Mushy Yank and @User:Scholar165:You are saying that the film passes second criteria of WP:NFIC which says "The film features significant involvement (i.e., one of the most important roles in the making of the film) by a notable person and is a major part of their career" but this film is not the "major part of their career". The film only "features significant involvement" not "major part of their career". 𝐋𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐕𝐨𝐥𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐭𝟕𝟐𝟖🧙♂️Let's Talk ! 02:29, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Maybe
not the "major part of their career"
(s) (emphasis mine) but as it was a commercial success, an important/major part of them (you will note that the guideline uses "a"). Still, if you think a redirect to Ravindra Dave#Hindi films and merge there is better, I am not opposed to this solution, personally (although I still do think a keep is better). -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 14:26, 5 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Added the sentence below (and 2 additional cites) to the lead para to assist establishing notability of the film:
- Ankh Micholi, released during the Golden Age of Hindi Cinema, which unfolded from the late 1940s to the 1960s, exemplifies how filmmakers during this period, attempted to combine renowned stars, directors and music composers for the commercial success of a film. Scholar165 (talk) 13:47, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks. It seems you posted the same message twice@Scholar165:. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 15:53, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Added the sentence below (and 2 additional cites) to the lead para to assist establishing notability of the film:
- Ankh Micholi, released during the Golden Age of Hindi Cinema, which unfolded from the late 1940s to the 1960s, exemplifies how filmmakers during this period, attempted to combine renowned stars, directors and music composers for the commercial success of a film. Scholar165 (talk) 13:49, 6 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 11:14, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Arbitrarily0 (talk) 20:38, 17 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Final relist.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 21:08, 24 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- As the creator of this article, I added much of the second para in the lead section to establish the article’s notability after the deletion nomination. Also added were several new cites and an image. If anyone has suggestions on anything else I can add, I will try my best to incorporate these into the article. Thanks.Scholar165 (talk) 13:37, 30 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.