The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. John254 00:09, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Ruoff[edit]

Alex Ruoff (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) (delete) – (View log)

Non-notable. The creator of this page has a history of creating articles for every WVU athlete. While some are worthy of Wikipedia entries, this one is not. Cite WP:ATHLETE. Further, this article does not include sufficient references, and it even lists things such as the subject's pet's name. This article is pure garbage.Timneu22 (talk) 11:56, 29 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep Rather than attack the motives of the author, perhaps we should just address the notability of the subject. While Ruoff is not a professional athlete, he certainly has been the subject of multiple published sources, thus meeting the basic criteria of notability. And, ah, here in WV we certainly have taken note of his performance on the court. Perhaps what is needed to prevent deletion is a plethora of references. WVhybrid (talk) 05:15, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. This debate does not "attack" the article's creator, but it is worth noting that this article is part of a number of articles that are questionable in notability and/or deleted because of the lack of notability. This article is better than most of the other subjects that were created by that user and are in AFD, but it is still borderline. Timneu22 (talk) 13:27, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Basketball-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- Raven1977 (talk) 01:58, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Aitias // discussion 01:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I have added a couple of references to this article to demonstrate that the subject of this article is notable. I think the article needs many more references, but from the two I added, it is clear to me that the article is a keeper. Also, I would again urge that only the article be considered, not the editor who created the article. I think in this case the creating editor has been acting in good faith, but that he needs to improve his editing style to provide references that prove notability. Perhaps instead of deletion, a "needs references" or even a "prod" tag is needed instead of an AfD. Thanks! WVhybrid (talk) 20:18, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep: While the article doesn't meet the expanded criteria under WP:ATHLETE, it does appear the meet the basic requirements of WP:NOTABILITY by virtue of its published sources. Given that its subject, Alex Ruoff, is considered to be one of the star players of the Mountaineers basketball team, I would imagine that with a moderate amount of effort more sources could be gathered to further support his notability. I like WVhybrid's suggestion of keeping the article and tagging it with a "needs references" message. Brian Powell (talk) 05:42, 4 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep Per Bmpowell, took the words right out of my mouth.--Iamawesome800 03:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.