- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was merge to 2023 Israel-Hamas war. This comes down to where the support of editors is on a judgement call around NEVENT, as detailed by Last1in. There is sufficient consensus here in my reading that this should be merged rather than retained. Daniel (talk) 09:59, 12 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Al-Ansar Mosque airstrike (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log | edits since nomination)
- (Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL)
One of many non-notable WP:CFORKS from the 2023 Israel-Hamas war. WP:NOTNEWS and unlikely to have WP:ENDURING as one of hundreds of reported tactical airstrikes during the war. Worth a bullet or two in the Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2023. Longhornsg (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge - I also must say I don't think it's likely to have WP:ENDURING. Also it does seem to have similar information and could indeed present WP:CFORKS. I agree that Wikipedia is not news. I also agree that there shouldn't be an article for every airstrike.
- I would recommend either deletion or adding it in about two sentences to a page that deals with the war or with the Israeli-Palestinian conflict in the West Bank.
- Kind regards Homerethegreat (talk) 14:56, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- WP:ENDURING is impossible to prove one way or another at this point. As noted, it's the realm of speculation, i.e.: not a reason to delete. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:32, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep What makes it notable is that it happened in the West Bank, not in Gaza. In Gaza, sure, there might have been hundreds of airstrikes during the current war - but this is the West Bank, which has so far been spared from the airstrikes and the war. "Israeli media reported that it was a fighter jet. The reports said that, if confirmed, it would be only the second time in about two decades that a fighter jet had hit a target in the West Bank." (quoting the BBC article)[1] Periwinklewrinkles (talk) 00:51, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge to Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2023 or 2023 Israel-Hamas war. Individual events within the war do not need their own articles unless they receive sustained coverage or in themselves have lasting WP:EFFECTs. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Seems like another argument about what may or may not happen in the future ... Iskandar323 (talk) 17:33, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge: I agree with the arguments raised. Parham wiki (talk) 20:02, 30 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Support a merge to Timeline of the Israeli–Palestinian conflict in 2023 and/or 2023 Israel-Hamas war per above arguments. XTheBedrockX (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep as it is notable and very well sourced Abo Yemen✉ 14:22, 1 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep There seem to be sufficient valid sources for the mentioned article to portray its notability; although it is better to add more related sources to it, as well. Ali Ahwazi (talk) 08:39, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep: it was taken about considerably at the time, and continues to be referenced [1] as a notable event and inflection point in the darkening conflict - both as a strike on a mosque in the West Bank (not Gaza), and the first airstrike in the West Bank in two decades, as noted on the page. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:23, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge per Homerethegreat. Loksmythe (talk) 19:58, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into October_2023_Jenin_incursion, which is for now the least-detailed and sourced entry in the series of incursion articles. If that doesn't grow in time it might be merged into the timeline. – SJ + 21:20, 4 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- This merge suggestion doesn't really makes sense, given that this page is significantly larger than the proposed target, and so would instantly unbalance that page in favour of this particular airstrike. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:29, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep For this article in particular as per Ali Ahwazi it is well enough written with sufficient sources for notability. Some articles of this nature are stub only and could be considered for merging if not broadened. As per Iksandar WP:ENDURANCE can’t be determined while events are happening. More broadly for articles of this type currently being created, they are not generally WP:CFORK which says “A content fork is a piece of content…that has the same scope as another piece of content that predated it, essentially covering the same topic.”. The timeline very broadly talks about battles, airstrikes etc. but these sub articles rather than forking provide richer detail on events mentioned in passing on the list. They are valuable for overall understanding of the war if meeting WP:N, WP:V and WP:NPOV (this last being most difficult in the circumstances). Ayenaee (talk) 17:56, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 00:13, 5 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Merge into 2023 Israel-Hamas war - This is a classic case of WP:TOOSOON. There is no way to know if this particular event will meet WP:NEVENT's WP:EFFECT or WP:PERSISTENCE criteria. I'd argue it is highly unlikely to do so on current evidence, but I'd have no trouble with this article being recreated in a year or two if this particular strike stands out amongst the plethora of atrocities (on both sides) in this horrific and senseless war. Cheers, Last1in (talk) 14:55, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete or Merge WP:TOOSOON. With regards, Oleg Y. (talk) 00:05, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.