The result was no consensus (but it's only a dicdef). Gwen Gale (talk) 18:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing more a dicdef and etymology. No reliable sources. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 22:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Transwiki. Seems everyone hates wiktionary. Moving (merging?) this there with a redirect keeps all the info, and puts the definition and entymology in the correct place. Also wikitionary should use primary sources, of which there are many. Otherwise delete as dictionary def.Yobmod (talk) 15:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]